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23 June, 2007 at 7:40 pm #273520
Its not just the media, its society at large
Picture a woman slapping a man in public, then think about a man hitting a woman JUST as hard…..
Socially we are conditioned to see the woman doing it as trivial and no big deal, its even comicalised quite frequently, where its taken seriously the reasons she was PUSHED towards doing it are ALL important and she is STILL the victim and will usually be portrayed as being pushed until she lashed out
yet the man doing it and the man is an “abuser”, hes the bad guy, the poor ickle woman is automatically the victim, the reasons arent important because its simply “violence” towards a woman. and men are just supposed to take anything and never lash out WHEN its a woman pushing
When a woman lashes out and kills a partner its usually claimed that she was constantly psychologically pushed for ages and then “snapped” and lashed out due to stress and other reasons
She is the victim, he is the abuser
When a man does the exact same thing all thats usually important is that he (a man) hit her (a woman), so again he is the violent abusing man, and she the poor ickle victim
Its pathetic really, made more so by the fact its a pushed agenda by the exact same sects of society and activist groups that proport to want “equality” when that is the very absolute last thing they want
23 June, 2007 at 7:24 pm #272996You really cant see past the end of your nose can you?
Who DONT the left support in your simplistic view of the political landscape? Big business for one
But who stands to make billions out of the GW myth? Big business
Who do most of the labour party elect have masses of shares in or chairmanships with?
Big business!!!!
There is no real right or left anymore, right wing parties will pretend to be left wing and vice versa to get into power and stay there
When in power the agendas of both are the same, collect as much money from as many people as possible and spend spend spend whilst ensuring you;ve set up a VERY nice little nest egg and exit career for when you can con the electorate any longer
Political ideals are a thing of the past and serve as nothing more than spin to con people into voting for each party, once in power the ONLY ideologies in practise are tax collection till it hurts and financial self interest both of which the fallacy of man made global warming helps along just nicely which is why ANY party of ANY pursuation will EQUALLY milk it for whatever its worth making it a political ideology that isnt linked to any particular party but to ALL of them equally
23 June, 2007 at 3:19 pm #272994@emmalush wrote:
@smiley wrote:
You’re wrong. Global warming, does not exist. It’s all media-hype rubbish. The earth warms & cools down naturally. Nothing to do with global warming or any other “catastrophe”.
It’s all liberal nonsense, an excuse to tax us!
Its got nothing to do with political ideology. The left just use it to scare our zombie nation into paying more tax and make them think the left “care”.
You’re a conservative, you dont believe the planet is warming up, but the conservatives do :roll:
smiley, is the planet warmer now than it was 20,000 years ago when there was alot more ice?
Emma, I think you already are one of the zombies you talk about
OF COURSE its a political idealogy DUH!!!!!
Its politically instigated, driven and justified with no science whatsoever to back it up
Youre looking at politics in an idealistic way that has no place or significance in the real world, politics isnt about political ideology anymore and hasnt been for decades, its about money, stature, self advancement and being re-elected
Thats why each successive government NEVER undoes any of the policies of practices that are totally in opposition to their political ideals, because the “other lot” installed them, but when in power they get to benefit from them and any idealogical clashes get shelved
Man made global warming has a massive political useage, it allows ridiculous taxation, curtailment of rights and freedoms, the suppression of the industrialisation of countries like africa who as with china could totally undermine our financial status in the world and gives us excuses to try an exercise control and power in countries we would struggle to otherwise
Thats politics, its an ideology it just isnt an ideology that is part of any one political parties philosophy, its one that can and will be used to their own non “green” aims by whoever is in power at any point and in pretty much any country the world over
Its a political ideology in the sense that its an ideology OF politics rather than an ideology of a particular leaning of political ideals
23 June, 2007 at 3:07 pm #272992You seem to be a teensy bit confused and unable to grasp quite basic concepts here smiley
Global warming ISNT claimed to be man made and never has been, its just the planets own cycles of warming up and cooling down as are ice ages part of the same process but the inverse to the global warming, IE global cooling
Nobody has ever said global warming is man made as it would be a bit daft seeing as we already know its been going on since long before there were any humans on the planet
“Man made global warming” however is an entirely different and rather nonsensical concept that claims THIS cycle of warming is caused by man even tho all science not only says but proves otherwise showing that this IS global warming, but would have happened whether mankind polluted a hundred times more than we do or if we had been extinct for centuries
So your repeated DISagreements are actually agreements, youre just not smart enough to realise that it seems
Yes it WAS global warming in the 11th century and at several other times in history and before man was on the planet, thats what global warming is, a long cycle of warming that NATURALLY happens GLOBALLY
What it or this current warming cycle WASNT tho is man made
14 June, 2007 at 10:29 pm #27298914 June, 2007 at 3:16 pm #273273@bassingbourne55 wrote:
Scale this up to portraying a whole group of people as victims (whether true or false) and you have a revolutionary political movement.
Nah, nothing so radical
What you actually have is the Jewish religion, Islam, Asians and blacks in general, the feminist movement, Lie aid, animal activists and countless other groups who exagerate or invent “victimhood” to further their aims
We live in a culture that worships victims even when the self proclaimed victim is actually the agressor
14 June, 2007 at 3:08 pm #272843That reminds me of a joke I was texted (well I’m assuming it was a joke lol
“What do you do if you see an asian staggering towards you with half his head blown away?
Answer. Stay calm, quicky reload and fire again
:D
13 June, 2007 at 3:00 pm #273270Infact, even where it does at face value SEEM as tho there is a clear manipulator and manipulatee its not always quite so simple
Its often the case that the self proclaimed victim will have partly or wholly either caused, created or imagined the “manipulation” over long periods of time and by the way they themselves interact
But people being people, its rare for people to see their own actions in such cases, what they DO see very clearly is the other persons REACTIONS to their own actions, but as tho they just magically appeared out of the blue for no reason whatsoever
13 June, 2007 at 2:57 pm #273269I think in many cases its not even that complex
What you often find is that both people in a situation like that ARE emotional manipulators]
Each will have an area or areas they wish to exert control indirectly where they will be the manipulator, areas where they are manipulated will often then be used as a way to manipulate other people
I think most people will be aware of someone who seems to “put up” with something or someone intolerable, who is constantly “sharing” their woes without ever seeking to change the situation or exit it
What they are doing is using the sob story to get attention, sympathy and empathy, something they would cease to get were they to either fix or leave the situation
Haveing worked with many couples where their relationship is based on poor or inneffective actual communication but lots of indirect manipulation, posturing and emotional blackmail they seem majoratively to be far more of a symiotic relationship rather than the unidirectional one each will try to claim it is
They feed off each other in different ways and each will be as much of a victim and perpetrator as the other, but each will talk as tho they are the victim and the other one is the manipulator and each will have endless supplies of pity and blind belief from their respective sets of friends
But very few outsiders ever get to see both sides in equal detail so the deciet and external manipulation is far easier to pull off than the manipulation of their partner
12 June, 2007 at 8:25 pm #272836Well you see the thing there is that it its SOOOOOOOOOOOOO offensive then it WOULDNT crop up OR be allowed in so many hollywood blockbusters that get shown all around the world WITHOUT a mass hysterical response as we are seeing here WOULD IT
And yet the scary movie films, Norbit< miami vice (the remake), Beverly hills cop, jackie brown (infact pretty much ANY film with Samuel L Jackson in it)
And yet no mass outcry, no censorship, no editing out of the OOOOH SOOOOO offensive word so the poor ickle fragile black folks and the sexually confused upper class middle class academics dont all have mass coronaries
So why is that? If the word is SOOOOOO obviously offensive why does it crop up in countless films, TV shows and songs many of which have world wide popularity AND are classed as suitable for kids and wheres the mass protests, censorship, rallies of protestation?
Either the word should be banned TOTALLY, for black people EQUALLY or criticised EVEN if a black folksie uses the word EQUALLY or it should be allowed EQUALLY for people of ANY colour
Either way I couldnt give a shit as long as its EQUAL
Although I would also like to see the black population remove the contrived racist redundant whingey broomstick from their collective asses concerning slavery seeing as its a pretty redundant topic now and especially seeing as the blacks themselves were doing it LONG before anyone else in the world was
But perhaps the analogy of jewish guards was a more apt one than you realise, after all the jews have been milking a guilt trip for 2000 years till they replaced it with an equally exagerated one after world war two
So the blacks are merely adopting a tried and tested method of whinging and whining about things that are irrelevant and well past their sell by date to get preferential treatment same as the jews seem to have been doing for most of recorded history
Doesnt mean we have to listen to it or pay it any credence tho (no pun intended lol)
So when blacks collectively stop using the word, or the “allegedly” offended squeaky wheels start to EQUALLY criticise blacks for using it THEN and only then will they as far as I’m concerned have any validity in their whinging and whining
Till then its just quite simply racism pandered to by minority hugging closet fag lefties
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