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I cant see how you can blame it on a tabloid Emma

Anyway, the guardian would be a much more likely culprit because of the amount of methane produced by its vaginatarian and tofu munching readership

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That just means your freezer needs defrosting

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The ice age ended!!!!

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On yahoo the stupid bint is quoted on claiming she thinks that going to jail is a message from god to tell her to stop her partying lifestyle :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What a cupidstunt :lol:

Its a message from the law to tell her to stop breaking the law, bit flippin obvious that really :lol:

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As much as I hate stereotyping this is something that a hell of a lot of women do to a massive extent and are oblivious to it even when its pointed out to them

Even the age old and very common thing of being in a huff when a bloke hasnt phoned them when they werent sitting there with all their fingers broken and both arms in plaster and WERE quite capable of and able to call him

Very good copy paste tho, I’ve just mailed it to four people I know who are dating these sorts (3 men and 1 woman) and who I get whinging and whining about it regularly without ever doing anything to change the situation

Maybe this will spur them into either ending or fixing their relationships, either way it might get me some peace lol :lol: :lol:

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Seriously tho, I do work for several bus and coach companies locally, they are and have been replacing workers with (is it polls, pols or poles??? :?) for several years to the extent now that three of them have 100% of their drivers polish

The reason for that is the poles will work for a minimum wage 40 hour week but paid as a salary which then means they can do 50 or 60 hours per week which they regularly do whereas a british employee wouldnt either do the job on minimum wage or as a salary so the profits made by those companies have exploded during that period

A similar thing is also happening on the building sites around here too where many of them quite literally wont under any circumstances employ non poles

But this isnt new, for decades we have had asian businesses that will ONLY employ asians and have a 100% asian workforce, but that kind of ratio never seems to be looked at in the same way a 100% white workforce would be

And yet we are expected to believe we have equality and that white or british workers are just lazy and dont want to work, when in many cases its more that they just dont want to work on less money than they can live on or have to compete financially for jobs with people allowed to come here from near third world economies

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Theres a company in london that facilitates the hoisting of flags on huge sticks

I think all of those are poles too :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Do you even know what “liberal” means? Or do you have problems spelling “literal” too?

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I think the internet and the abundance of information on it is actually an interesting point and perhaps even another topic

The best description of the internet I have ever heard is that its like having the best library ever to exist hidden in the cellar of the worlds largest sex shop lol

The problem is that if you look at not only common useage but also attributed social problems the wealth of distractions is a far more widely utilised aspect of the net than the educational element

Apply the same critique to television for a moment, cable and satelite both have a mass of educational and scientific channels and programmes, but are they the most heavily watched? Nowhere near, infact they are at best marginal channels

Television is for the masses an escape from the realities of everyday life, as such the sort of programs watched are far from being ones based on knowledge learning or self betterment and the same applies to the internet with music, gambling, porn and gaming sites being by far some of the highest used forms of sites surfed

Diversity means SOME people WILL log on and without reason seek out educational or knowledge based sites, even current affairs ones. But short of an actual query for a particular question most peoples surfing is entertainment based or a form of utter escapism as it is with the television

So yeah, the internet DOES contain an unbridled amount of information and different perspectives, but honestly, how many people even bother?

The same apathy you mentioned, the social conditioning towards abstract escapist pursuits such as computergames and funny videos etc hardly help to make people crave to learn, the sense that nothing can be changed doesnt exactly make people see a point in finding out and verifying “facts”

Infact if that was the case the broadsheets would be the most popular papers, the libraries we have would be full to bursting, the history channel would be a premium channel, newsnight would have higher viewing figures than eastenders and that same interest in facts current events and understanding the world around us would probably lead to almost 100% turn out for voting

How many of those are the case tho?

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Well credit where credits due Slayer, excellent post

The thing is tho, I didnt and wouldnt claim that in any populace every person would react in the same way to the same stimulus, as such the hypothesis could only be put forward as how SOME people would react

As for the example of 9/11, right from day one the “scientists” have been quite vocally contradiciting each other, so IMO its a different scenario to begin with because of that#

But with other topics the only real visible scientific voice is all in unison and any dissent no matter how well qualified or world renowned is ridiculed, demonised and doesnt get much if any media airtime

So although their is two opposing views, only 1 gets mass exposure unlike with the 911 thing where both sides have been to some extent quite visible

With topics like the aids virus tho and global warming, the political pressue has made many quite well reknowned scientists with quite valid intrinsic evidence keep quiet and when many have expressed opposition they have been ridiculed, criticised and even threatened as well as losing their jobs and/or funding

So the social awareness of the “scientific view” on those amongst other topics isnt quite as two sided by any means

But I did also mention the apathetic “I cant change anything so why bother” attitude too anyway in the original post if you look back, so its hardly the case that I said this was the ONLY possibility and EVERYONE would do it

But I also think that 911 has a much more visible opposing side to it than global warming, aids and several other quite major topics, and those were the ones I was more focussed on with this thread whereas one connectied to something like 911 I would have had the apathy as the main side effect and the intellectual snobery as the secondary one as even in that sort of scenario there still wouldnt just be one psychological reaction to whats seen

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