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9 November, 2012 at 12:26 pm #513974
@panda12 wrote:
Barack Obama had a black father and a white mother.
He’s not black. He’s brown, like me.
Maybe some people voted for his white half and some voted for his black half.
He could do 50 shades of Grey all on his own! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
9 November, 2012 at 11:43 am #513970@terry wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
Yes wordsworth, 14% who don’t want to jump on the race card bandwagon the way you and sceptical guy do. Get over it.
I’m glad that there are a significant number of ‘black’ Americans who, when they play the race card, do it differently from me. I seem to be much worse at it than you are.
In responding to your repeated reference to the subject, I’ve downplayed the importance of ‘blackness’ in favour of the ideas of there being ‘one race, the human race’: that ‘black’ people might have voted for or against President Obama because their opinions on his policies and performance rather than his place on a colour chart. You seem to reject that idea. Repeatedly.
But do you really think they were influenced by Tony Blair?
9 November, 2012 at 11:11 am #513968@terry wrote:
. . . . . . 14% of black Americans . . . . . . . . . . . . Tony Blair’s . . . . . .
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9 November, 2012 at 1:28 am #514304I have no intention of talking to Helen about sex!
Honestly! You young people think you invented it . . . . . .
9 November, 2012 at 1:06 am #514302I’m just talking about sex . . . . .
9 November, 2012 at 12:51 am #514300@j_in_france wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@j_in_france wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
If you find sex sad you’re either doing it wrong or with the wrong person :wink:
Doing it with the wrong person can be more interesting, it not more pleasurable . . . .
lol Words I wouold not dare
Sometimes the only difference between the right person and the wrong person is timing . . . .
maybe but after 30 years with the right person I guess my timing is correct
It’s the other person’s opinion which counts – especially if you’re only guessing . . . . .
9 November, 2012 at 12:43 am #514298@j_in_france wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@jen_jen wrote:
If you find sex sad you’re either doing it wrong or with the wrong person :wink:
Doing it with the wrong person can be more interesting, it not more pleasurable . . . .
lol Words I wouold not dare
Sometimes the only difference between the right person and the wrong person is timing . . . .
9 November, 2012 at 12:39 am #514296@jen_jen wrote:
If you find sex sad you’re either doing it wrong or with the wrong person :wink:
Doing it with the wrong person can be more interesting, it not more pleasurable . . . .
9 November, 2012 at 12:35 am #513963@terry wrote:
. . . . . 86% of black voters voted for Obama and that was a statistic from today’s papers. You have to admire the 14% who decided that Obama’s ‘blackness’ (as you put it) was far less important than his ‘crapness’.
Another interesting statistic is that Obama received 10 million fewer votes than he did four years ago. In the back of his mind the President must be wondering what the future holds for him and if there’s another bin Laden moment that will boost his flagging popularity. He certainly needs one.
Unless black people vote with their skins rather than their brains, there’s no special reason to admire a ‘black’ American who disagrees with their president any more than we should admire a ‘white’ American who agrees with him. There is only one race, the human race, so their ‘blackness’ will have had less to do with their vote than their opinion on his policies.
Why ‘blackness’? Because Obama is not black in colour, but by ‘racial’ categorisation.
Just like ours, The US electoral system doesn’t deliver on overall majority but by territorial advantage. All parties know this, and campaign to deliver electoral college, rather than numerical wins. Both major parties will have invested heavily in manipulating the system, but despite the reduction in Obama’s votes, and getting the majority of votes from the largest ‘ethnic group’ in the US, Romney failed to get elected.
9 November, 2012 at 12:15 am #513962Sitting governments commonly get fewer votes than incoming governments. Considering the dire state of the US economy, the formation of the Tea Party, the personal attacks of people like Donald Trump etc, Obama has done well to be re-elected.
What is his future? Well, having been re-elected, whether by a million votes more or less, this is his last term, when it’s over, he will live much as other ex-presidents have done. Comfortable, well-protected, influential and rich.
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