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    I heard today that all 12 and 13 year old girls will be given an injection to prevent 70-80% of cervical cancers caused by HPV.

    Which leads me to a simple conclusion.

    The vast majority of cervical cancers are caused by

    1. Numerous sexual partners
    2. Starting sex at a young age
    3. lack of use of safe sex

    All these three factors are totally preventable yet the NHS is to pay tens of millions for the injections. So teenage girls get preventative treatment (which of course will have them safe in the knowledge they dont have to change their sexual habits, indeed it will encourage them its ok to carry on as they are) and people who suffer from diseases like Alzheimers (which is not preventable, as far as I know) are denied treatment because the drugs cost too much.

    How much does we, as taxpayers, expect the NHS to assist us no matter what the consequences of our actions and how much should there be individual responsibility to change our actions to minimise the risk?

    Seems barking to me

    #274210

    my Aunt died of cervial cancer, at 36 and was a virgin, as she was serverly handicapped… I was 6 at the time of her death I only rem her always being in a wheelchair so I think the 3 reasons you mentioned which are the cause sometimes arn’t always the cause Slayer….

    #274211

    That’s as may be Mary … but Slayer’s point is still very well made.

    The overwhelming majority of the cases of cervical cancer (NOT all cases you note) are caused by the HPV or human papilloma virus, which is sexually transmitted.

    It’s the old story again isn’t it …. one with which we are by now all too familiar. Don’t bother teaching children about morality, or sexual abstinence. Just accept that the total lack of moral leadership both in their homes and in their perception of acceptable standards of behaviour is OK really and is ‘cool’ and let them get on with fornicating with each other as soon as they can.

    Oh dear …. unrestrained and unprotected fornication leads to sexually transmitted diseases – never mind we can protect them from the consequences of their actions with a simple injection – and all will be well won’t it?

    There are times … and this is absolutely one of them … when I utterly dispair for our children’s future. God help us but we are creating a future of utterly immoral ‘feral’ children besotted with illicit sex, illegal drugs and ‘cool’ street culture.

    #274212

    Kids are having sex at earlier ages now then 20 years ago. We can of course preach to them about abstinence and morality, but they will most likely fall into the peer pressure of having sex before they are mentally ready to handle it. There are no side effects of having this vaccination, so the benefits out weigh the risk. As a society, we’re not as moral as we should be. We should still encourage moral behavior as well as responsible behavior. We are responsible for our children’s health and well being. If giving the vaccination would potentially save kids from cancer, them I’m for it. I’ve seen cancer first hand and if it can be prevented by a simple stick of a needle, why not save lives and suffering by doing it? Just ask anybody who’s had cancer.

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    @American Woman wrote:

    Kids are having sex at earlier ages now then 20 years ago. We can of course preach to them about abstinence and morality, but they will most likely fall into the peer pressure of having sex before they are mentally ready to handle it. There are no side effects of having this vaccination, so the benefits out weigh the risk. As a society, we’re not as moral as we should be. We should still encourage moral behavior as well as responsible behavior. We are responsible for our children’s health and well being. If giving the vaccination would potentially save kids from cancer, them I’m for it. I’ve seen cancer first hand and if it can be prevented by a simple stick of a needle, why not save lives and suffering by doing it? Just ask anybody who’s had cancer.

    i agree with you AW, but unfortunetly some parents don’t speak with their children about sex, they leave it up to what they get at school which is pretty basic stuff, not even touching on the surface…..

    I can rem my sex education at school… the science block 6.6 section 6 a diagram of the female and male body…. not much, I didnt learn anything from my parents either, as it was a no go area, if parents want to teach their children about sex education its about time they should feel less embarsed about the situtation… I know id rather be freely spoken with my children, as I wish them to understand its more than a fumble to make you feel good…

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    @American Woman wrote:

    Kids are having sex at earlier ages now then 20 years ago. We can of course preach to them about abstinence and morality, but they will most likely fall into the peer pressure of having sex before they are mentally ready to handle it. There are no side effects of having this vaccination, so the benefits out weigh the risk. As a society, we’re not as moral as we should be. We should still encourage moral behavior as well as responsible behavior. We are responsible for our children’s health and well being. If giving the vaccination would potentially save kids from cancer, them I’m for it. I’ve seen cancer first hand and if it can be prevented by a simple stick of a needle, why not save lives and suffering by doing it? Just ask anybody who’s had cancer.

    This is … yet again … a total and utter cop out. So underage girls will be girls will they??? Well never mind ‘cos at least we can stop them from getting cancer. Yes let’s all collude in this and give them a free injection.

    Jesus fucking Christ ….. are you totally insane????

    If the teenage unmarried girls didn’t allow some snotty nosed little street hoodlum to stuff his rancid little cock into them in the first place, they wouldn’t be worried about getting cervical cancer from the HPV virus that he squirts into them.

    #274215

    @forumhostpb wrote:

    @American Woman wrote:

    Kids are having sex at earlier ages now then 20 years ago. We can of course preach to them about abstinence and morality, but they will most likely fall into the peer pressure of having sex before they are mentally ready to handle it. There are no side effects of having this vaccination, so the benefits out weigh the risk. As a society, we’re not as moral as we should be. We should still encourage moral behavior as well as responsible behavior. We are responsible for our children’s health and well being. If giving the vaccination would potentially save kids from cancer, them I’m for it. I’ve seen cancer first hand and if it can be prevented by a simple stick of a needle, why not save lives and suffering by doing it? Just ask anybody who’s had cancer.

    This is … yet again … a total and utter cop out. So underage girls will be girls will they??? Well never mind ‘cos at least we can stop them from getting cancer. Yes let’s all collude in this and give them a free injection.

    Jesus fucking Christ ….. are you totally insane????

    If the teenage unmarried girls didn’t allow some snotty nosed little street hoodlum to stuff his rancid little cock into them in the first place, they wouldn’t be worried about getting cervical cancer from the HPV virus that he squirts into them.

    its commonly known that MALES ARE THE MAIN SUSPECTS IN NOT USING CONDOMS…. if a lad goes and sh ags about they get a pat on the back from their piers not did you rem to protect yourself and the girl….

    #274216

    hi new here,i feel women are just as guilty in unprotected sex and i worry about my teenage daughter who has a latex allergy,are there other options

    #274217

    I for one have sat down and spoke to both my daughters about sex

    16 And 13 they no the ins and outs no pun intended

    Its not the sex before marrige i no i carnt expect them to do has i did but i drum it into them f00k sake respect your self and your body

    Dont let no t wat of a lad get his way by saying but i love you after 2 weeks or how ever long it is

    She has said your old fashiond mom but she understrands where im coming from

    I dont agree with giving the pill abortion or condoms out with out parents knowing

    But yes its better than so many under aged pregnasys Even tho there are still plenty of them about

    So much for helping the kids of today out here go on the pill at 12 sleep round and gets cancer VD wot ever HIV in the worst case

    I say CROSS YA F00KING LEGS till ya ready talk to ya kids and be honest with them instead of throwing them out on the street till god nos what time so you can watch soaps or shag countless uncles they have

    Old fashiond or not my 2 no right from wrong

    Gone way of topic i no but ist only way i can get me piont over

    #274218

    @vector wrote:

    hi new here,i feel women are just as guilty in unprotected sex and i worry about my teenage daughter who has a latex allergy,are there other options

    Vector, I have type1 and type 4 laytex allergic inwhich I have to use epie pens as I could die,…. final the condons manufactors have made laytex free condoms here’s the link… Im actually fairly lucky as I get mine free…. as there dearer than your standard…

    http://www.nitetimetoys.com/condoms/polyurethane.php

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