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I’m working class and could never vote or trust this man. Think my mum and dad will be turning in there grave where this lot have gone. Today shows us he’s all about borrow borrow borrow and let someone else sort the shit out when they get in. “Blue is the colour”
The tories have borrowed and spent more than all previous labour governments combined, during the past 7 years. They have reduced the deficit by slashing public services dressed up as “efficiency” savings. They have not met a single economic target they set themsleves etc. Over the past 70 years labour economic record is superior to that of the tories, in terms of ‘structural’ deficits and borrowing, although it is similar. It is a total myth that labour spend spend spend and then the tories jump in to fix it. The facts just do not support that urban myth after decades of tory propaganda.
Older voters I suspect, care more about Mays ‘dementia tax’, the end of universal winter fuel allowances and the end of the triple lock pension, than they care about what Corbyn did say, or didn’t say in the 70’s and 80’s.
Labour are a joke at the momeant. There leader don’t know what the costs are and his followers have done the same. At least little Maggie has a clue where to take us and the cost of it. Just like when big Maggie said oi that’s our island to the arges in 81.
I’ve already made my point about Corbyn and the IRA.
I’m more than happy he should be Prime Minister.
Tory/UKIP paper headlines from 30-40 years ago should be seen in perspective, and for that look at my previous post.
Patricia Hewitt is a Blairite who is not standing for parliament, never mind government.
She was extremely stupid, and admits she was.
Which is the more important, fighting the battles of 40 years ago or fighting for health and education now.
They will not be safe if the Tories get in.
Labour are a joke at the momeant. There leader don’t know what the costs are and his followers have done the same. At least little Maggie has a clue where to take us and the cost of it. Just like when big Maggie said oi that’s our island to the arges in 81.
It was 82. Yesterday’s battle, not today’s.
Corbyn doesn’t have every figure in his mind all the time. He apologised for the error.
Things are on the tip of my tongue often, and I only remember them later.
You going to attack someone because he’s human?
May changed her mind over social care overnight. One day it’s in the manifesto; the next she’s backtracked.
She will not be as tough as she claims against the EU, who are the toughest negotiating team in the world.
She acts tough, then caves in.
I totally agree that May and her team will be a total disaster during the Brexit negotiations, I suspect however a “hard” Brexit is on the cards specifically because the tories are engaged in an ideological war, where they want to impose yet more draconian “austerity”and disguise it behind a hard Brexit, the end game being the privatization of the NHS and all public services and if they can, blame the EU for it.
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you may well be right.
May’s team have been having terrible arguments with the Treasury, and Philip Hammond looks to be for the chop. Hammond is a soft brexit man, and accused May of being economically illiterate.
When i look at May, she seems to hide a clueless attitude behind the confident @I-am-tough’ approach. She doesn’t know what she’s doing, and is going to rely on being awkward.
She does know that a hard brexit will have dire consequences for the British economy, at the very least in the short term, but seems to think it worthwhile.
I hope I’m wrong, because people are going to get hurt.
I honestly believe that May is a hard right sleeper (bit like Trump in the US) and put in power by the right wing element of the tory party specifically because she is so incompetent and malleable and therefore easily manipulated. Yet despite that, the tories under her leadership appear to be doing their utmost to actually lose this election and they are now desperately trying to keep her away from any serious public scrutiny, so that they still scrape through. It will not be the landslide predicted and to go back to my previous point, this hard right element want a hard Brexit and May is the puppet they chose to deliver it. I don’t think many people understand just how far right certain elements of the tory party are.
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I’m only just finishing reading the tory manifesto, so far what i have gleaned is this.
mrs may will put up national insurance for everyone to cope with immigration, health tourists etc.
they will also outsource much more of the nhs (more than what is already) to the lowest bid it isnt considered whether they know what theyre doing
they will stop all free school meals, and maternity payments will be stopped.
Jeremy hunts plan will be to make sure it becomes more logical for those that can afford it to go private healthcare, and to use their old phrase lets be clear here it WILL be means tested!
and i think we all know what that means, if you work even just above minimum wage or are retired and have savings over 9k you WILL have to pay!
health insurance will be phased in also.
once i have read the labour manifesto i will add to this thread again i dont do news sound bites, or he said she said i read and digest
Well if you cant trust him can you trust her (Diane Abbot) ?
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