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Unless it suits.
Suits what Echo, you telling me elaborate lies about chatters being paedophiles who are also into bestiality?
Does that suit you?
I absolutely agree on this, Drac. It’s not a democratic way of going about things. The best it can do is elect a Parliament which reflects the proportion of votes cast for a party. PR is a totally undemocratic way of choosing a government. But the d’Hondt system used for Euro elections does neither. It doesn’t choose a government at all, because the EU government is chosen by other means – democratic in a sense, but very indirect. It certainly doesn’t choose a democratic parliament. An incredibly complex system – someone explained it to me clearly, and it boggles the mind.
It’s much worse than this, once elected an established polititian cannot be voted out of office. If the party supports them then they will be placed in the #1 position on the list, so they can only be remove if the entire party gets 0 seats.
this is why the EU parliment is full of extremist european nationalists like Guy Verhofstadt.
I prefer STV (single transferable vote), as it solves most of the same problems with none of the disadvantages and also removes the need for tactical voting.
It’s much worse than this, once elected an established polititian cannot be voted out of office. If the party supports them then they will be placed in the #1 position on the list, so they can only be remove if the entire party gets 0 seats.
They don’t even have to be elected first, a party can just choose someone as say “That’s out guy”, (litterally in Verhofstadt’s case), and they would be guanrenteed a seat.
If this system was used in the UK all Labour MPs would be hardcore marxists like John McDonnel, and all Conservative MPs would be authoritarian puritans like Theresa May or Amber Rudd. The country would be in chaos.
It’s much worse than this, once elected an established polititian cannot be voted out of office. If the party supports them then they will be placed in the #1 position on the list, so they can only be remove if the entire party gets 0 seats.
this is why the EU parliment is full of extremist european nationalists like Guy Verhofstadt.
I prefer STV (single transferable vote), as it solves most of the same problems with none of the disadvantages and also removes the need for tactical voting.
Isn’t Verhofstadt the bloke who comes into jc trying to pick up underage kids in the over-40s room, and is pepared to look for animals on the off chance that kids aren’t hanging around f3??
I think you mean federalist, not nationalist.
STV sounds like a venereal disease. It’s much better than the d’Hondt system, I grant you, but there are still some real problems with it. The degree of problem depends on the system used to elect the MP – constituency or party list or, like the Germans, a mix.
I like the present first-past-the-post. not just because it’s simpler and we’r used to it, though that’s important. It’s just that we have more control over who we vote for – tactical voting becomes a possibility. In practice, the parliament isn’t very democratically chosen, but the government is.
oh dear…sceppers and drac discussing politics………..mind you…..never seen sceppers fALLOUT WITH DRAC YET OR PAIGEY FOR THAT MATTER…lmao rat pml
I think you mean federalist, not nationalist.
He’s very much a nationalist.
STV sounds like a venereal disease. It’s much better than the d’Hondt system, I grant you, but there are still some real problems with it.
Such as?
The degree of problem depends on the system used to elect the MP – constituency or party list or, like the Germans, a mix. I like the present first-past-the-post. not just because it’s simpler and we’r used to it, though that’s important. It’s just that we have more control over who we vote for – tactical voting becomes a possibility. In practice, the parliament isn’t very democratically chosen, but the government is.
STV can be used with any voting system, including first past the post.
They call them parties for a reason…………..they’re having a party at your expense….LMAO RATF PML
drac,
I think it’s a good idea to say what you think how stv is compatible with first past the post.
Everybody else thinks you can either have one or the other, not both.
How do you see us having both??
cmon drac…don’t let sceppers…(the rules)…….talk you down……….LMAO RATF PML
So scep is anti brexit and pro Europe
but he don’t like the idea of a British man residing in Europe 🤔
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