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13 December, 2007 at 2:40 am #295019
He could be just what this national team needs, some of the players, like Gerrard for example i believe genuinely do care and there must be others, but i think it’s safe to say some of them really dont seem to take it seriously.
From what i have read in the media of comments from players who have played for him in the past, he is a no nonsense in your face manager and will drop you regardless who you are if you mess around, and i think that is the kind of manager our national team needs right now.
And i heard he detests the wags and they wont be going anywhere with them, to away games, tournaments etc, and i heard he plans to drop John Terry as captain that should go down well :D12 December, 2007 at 11:38 am #295016lol, thankyou for the laugh emma you been a good sport and arguing just for the hell of it.
11 December, 2007 at 2:39 am #295014Ok Emma cos you are an idiot with no idea about Sir Bobby i will fill you in, he left his last job as a consultant with the Irish as he has got cancer, so you think England would benefit from a 74yr old with cancer who quit his last job with a international team due to his cancer?
11 December, 2007 at 2:34 am #295013@emmalush wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
Managing leicester and the national team are not exactly the same kettle of fish, Leics was a cr.ap club with low expectations so it didnt matter if he fcked up.
So what o’neill did at crappy celtic was tremendous??
O’neil did well for Leicester under the circumstances, even taking them to 2 seasons in the uefa cup.
And as for what did he do at celtic,
in season 2003-04 Celtic created a British record of 25 consecutive victories
he took celtic to the uefa cup final, in his first season celtic won a domestic treble. and 2 league titles.
Remind me…what did shearer ever win except 1 league title a long time ago? it’s not like even has a winners pedigree or experience ever winning anything!The expectation at Leicester is to win everything. (are you smoking something?)
First off he dont have his badges, so he can’t, secondly he has no experience as a manager at club level, let alone international, good enough reasons in themselves.
Brian clough didn’t have “badges” :lol: greatest English manager ever.
Your argument that Alan’s never been a manager doesn’t wash. EVERY single human starts SOMEWHERE doing something. GREAT managers fail.
So let him go learn his trade and manage at club level, and if he can prove he is good enough in the future, sure why not the England job.
They failed yes, like many other managers, but shearer is not a manager, that’s the point!
NO ONE is a manager until they BECOME a manager you thick tw@, deary me.
no sh!t sherlock, i seriously think you need to know your history of the game and the people in it before you start such stupid topics :roll:
But there is a qualification you need to become a manager, one which shearer dont have.
sven, maclaren, taylor, keegan, hoddle….
So shearer is as qualified as jose, capella, etc etc…
YES, because NO ONE can say for DEFINATE which manager will absolutely do the bizz, else that man would have already been interviewed.
True enough nobody can gurantee success, but you stand a better chance of it with a proven manager so dumb split @rse!
Alex ferguson was ONE game from loosing the man u job, and now he’s one of the best EVER (with mass finance), you just DON’T KNOW.
And why is he so great, he won various titles in scotland, he got better cos he learned from exeriences etc from his previous managing jobs, bloody hell woman, you just dont get it! you clearly know little about the game or people in it, put a sock in it, you are getting boring keep saying this stuff and you clearly have no idea.
11 December, 2007 at 1:44 am #295010@emmalush wrote:
Letters to sky sports
Kevin Herbert
“I would like to see a young english man like Shearer involved in some capacity to learn though”Paul Davies (Everton fan)
“My vote is Shearer or Klinsmann.”Bob Jones (Middlesbrough fan)
“Alan Shearer, he is a great player and knows about every aspect of the game.”Luke Alexander (Chelsea fan) says…
“There seems to be a groundswell of opinion in favour of Harry Redknapp with Shearer and Adams as assistants. Harry seems like a good man and Shearer and Adams have passion and drive. The motivational skills of these three would be second to none.”Luke Summers (Leeds United fan)
“My best bet is a man who hasn’t really been looked at enough – Alan Shearer. He knows some of the players from playing experience and knows what it is like to enjoy success and suffer defeat in an England shirt, giving him valuable characteristics for the job.”David Sorrell (Arsenal fan) says…
“The F A should go for a English Manager. I think they should try Alan Shearer and Stuart Pearce. Shearer would be good for tactics as he seems to have a good knowledge for the game.”Mark Pain (Coventry City fan)
“Shearer with an assistent. The media is the biggest problem to any manager but someone with the presence of Shearer or Adams should be an asset. Everyone starts somewhere – what have we got to lose?”http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_2959401,00.html
So if we got votes for Mr Blobby to be manager that would mean we should have him?
11 December, 2007 at 1:41 am #295009emmalush wrote:Anita Gofradump wrote:Depends if the national team means anything to you?It means alot, so that means we should have Harry, but if not Alan.
I’m not keen on Harry, but you cant argue what he has done to bring west ham and portsmouth along so he’s fare game
Managing leicester and the national team are not exactly the same kettle of fish, Leics was a cr.ap club with low expectations so it didnt matter if he fcked up.
:lol: he was booed 3 months in, infact a sit-in protest, so it did matter.
But still you cant compare sh!tty Leicester to the national team
Martin had almost 10yrs managing experience before he took over at Leicester.
What do those clubs matter or what he did? Which was NOTHING, which is why what he did at Leicester was incredible considering his managerial past, and resources.
Yes he did well, and shearer has done what as manager?….and your point is?
Best Striker around must naturally make him a great manager?
Nope, but you havn’t told me why he shouldn’t be manager other than he hasn’t been a manager. Ive given you experience in the modern game, that no manager considered has.
First off he dont have his badges, so he can’t, secondly he has no experience as a manager at club level, let alone international, good enough reasons in themselves.
Again nobody gave a monkeys about watford
You dont mind showing your ignorance.
The point is he was successful, but not as a player.I’m ignorant?….you was the 1 saying he has never even played yet he had over 300 caps!
Do you even know what you are saying anymore im wondering lolSo if Sven, Mickey Mac Clown Claren who have experience at club level of being managers can’t do it, you trying to say someone with no experience can do it better
Of course, and he could also be worse, Jose could be worse, capello could be worse, sven and maclaren were as “qualified” as any manager in the world considering their club jobs, but they failed,
They failed yes, like many other managers, but shearer is not a manager, that’s the point!
There is SIMPLY no qualification that says you’re qualified to be a successfull England manager,
But there is a qualification you need to become a manager, one which shearer dont have.
THUS, Alan Shearer is as “qualified” as most in the frame.
So shearer is as qualified as jose, capella, etc etc…you talkin out ya hat woman.
You have already proven you dont know anything about football.Therefore, seeing as he’s a very proud Englishman, he’s respected in the game, played and captained England not long ago, with Bobby Robson in the background, theres no reason to assume he’d fail.
Ask yaself, why did Sir Bobby quit the irish national team?….again you dont know what you are talking about.
If klinsman can do it for germany
Good luck to him, but no way would any true English man accept a german manager!
10 December, 2007 at 2:06 pm #295237New borns are always so cute and lovely, but isnt she a bit young to be on the weed pipe, getting stoned at that age is a disgrace :lol:
Congrats!
10 December, 2007 at 2:03 pm #295002@emmalush wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have Shearer as manager, what has he ever done to prove he can even manage, let alone manage well. It’s the same scenario with Stuart Pearce last time round, he was tipped to be manager, what a joke that that was, where is he now!
What had klinsman done?
Does it absolutely matter?
Depends if the national team means anything to you?
Martin o’neill hadn’t done anything managerial wise untill he came to Leicester. Then within 18 months he geared us to the best season we’d ever had.
Managing leicester and the national team are not exactly the same kettle of fish, Leics was a cr.ap club with low expectations so it didnt matter if he fcked up.
Martin had almost 10yrs managing experience before he took over at Leicester.
1987–1989 – Grantham Town
1989–1990 – Shepshed Charterhouse
1990-1995 – Wycombe Wanderers
1995 – Norwich City
Then he joined LeicesterNo one knows for absolute who is the best, but to say that a very proud Englishman who not that long ago played for and captained England, was one of the best strikers the premiership has ever seen etc etc
Best Striker around must naturally make him a great manager?
If Graham donkey taylor can be successful with watford without EVER playing the game, then theres no definate qualification needed.
Again nobody gave a monkeys about watford they are not and never have been a big club, so they once had a run in the top flight of english football, it’s nothing.
But again he did have experience managing before he went to watford, oh and he was a playerHe played before he managed:
1962-1968 – Grimsby Town (189 appearances)
1968-1972 – Lincoln City (150 appearances)and he managed Lincoln City for 5 years before he went to watford.
Simply put, if robinson, neville, ferdinand, terry, cole, phillips, gerrard, barry, cole, rooney and owen are all fit to play, millions would go with it, some would play lamps.
You’re telling me Alan hasn’t the knowledge to pick them, and guide them to do what comes naturally to them, just cos he hasn’t managed…its not rocket science.
So if Sven, Mickey Mac Clown Claren who have experience at club level of being managers can’t do it, you trying to say someone with no experience can do it better, come on emma at least make the argument for your case plausable :lol:
10 December, 2007 at 12:56 am #294998@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
if you’re seriously suggesting Alan Shearer for England manager, you learnt f/uck all
Why shouldn’t it be Alan?
You can’t have Shearer as manager, what has he ever done to prove he can even manage, let alone manage well. It’s the same scenario with Stuart Pearce last time round, he was tipped to be manager, what a joke that that was, where is he now!
10 December, 2007 at 12:53 am #294997@emmalush wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have someone who has never even managed walk straight into the England job
Jurgen klinsman did ok for germany. Infact he did so well he’s one of the front contenders for England as a result.
But he is a 1 off, a fluke, and a fcking kruat, no way should we ever have a german manager!
I would however have Shearer in the England staff and having a role of some description.
To teach the players to play well? Aint that what a manager does…
No not at all, if the manager did everything, you wouldnt have, goal keeper coaches etc, the manager does not much more than pick the team and pick the tactics when it comes down to it.
Manuel Almunia has confirmed his intention to press ahead and claim international recognition for England.
So we don’t need to worry about Carson, Robinson, James, Kirkland, Green, cos we will have a spanish goal keeper who is desperate and we will take him, what a laughing stock we will be.Weve got Ray clemence.
You suggesting putting Ray in goal, or you dont know who Almunia is, Almunia is a goalkeeper, not a coach you tit.
If we want a foreigner with WINNING experience, Carlo Ancelotti’s won TWO European Champions Leagues with AC Milan in the past 5 years, and finalists with Liverpool.
Carlo has never done anything with Liverpool, have you been on grandpars medicine?
THREE finals in 5 years, very impressive.
I’m a Liverpool supporter, Rafa has won the European Cup, Uefa Cup in back to back seasons, and the European Cup final runner up, won spanish league title, and other various cups he has won as manager excellent pedigree on paper, but no way would i want him as England manager.
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