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Yes, atleast they punish criminals, “we” think about it
They mighyt punish criminals but they also punish people they think might be criminals and people who have done things that wouldn’t be considered a crime here.
But then this Christian country, is awash with yobbos, rapists, drug addicts and dealers, all probably professing to be Christians, so you pays your money you take your choice.
You cannot draw a parallel between the situation in western, nominally Christian, democracies and places ruled by islamists.
True, we have microfascism here, imposed by neighbours from hell, street yobbos, drug dealers and, of course, school bullies, but that is not part of the system.
A closer parallel would be the way the Roman Catholic church ruled mediaeval Europe, when to question the Bible could mean being burnt at the stake.
The secret of totalitarianism that the jihadists have realised, as did Hitler, Stalin etc, is that you need to have the neighbours from hell, street yobbos, drug dealers and school bullies on-side, working for the system.
All his life was dedicated to fighting Western aggression and terrorism,
His words or yours? :lol:
Killing muslims in Iraq and in his home country of Jordan strikes me as a very odd way of fighting ‘Western aggression and terrorism’. More like he was carrying on Saddam Hussein’s work of victimising Shia majority (who are backed by Iran, no friend of the west) although in the name of his brand of Islam rather than Saddam’s Ba’athist vision of ‘Greater Iraq’.
I’ve always voted Lib Dem so I’ve never been proud of my vote!
Personally, i think he was less evil than the coalition in terms of the war.
Who said that? GO and stand in the corner!
Apparently he took an hour to die. I hope he managed to contemplate the pros and cons of martyrdom as he suffered his well-deserved final agonies.
He is thought to have personally killed some of the western hostages but he was also responsible for the deaths of thousands of muslims in Iraq.
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Quote:I would also like to see legislation to ban the wearing of items of clothing (e.g.T-shirts) with offensive wording on them in a public place. We should be moving away from the celebration of badness and nastiness as cool.
FFS Bass what planet are you on ????
If there are laws about indecent exposure it’s perfectly reasonable to make laws about offensive slogans on clothes too!!
I’m beginning to believe the government is tuning in to my brainwaves.
Many of the things I’ve advocated for many years are being adopted by
government.If it’s to do with law and order then they’re only doing what Joe Public has been suggesting ‘dahn va pub’ or ‘daown t’poob’ for years!
I would also like to see legislation to ban the wearing of items of clothing (e.g.T-shirts) with offensive wording on them in a public place. We should be moving away from the celebration of badness and nastiness as cool.
I don’t mind pigeons, I like the ‘cuckoo-coo-cuckoo’ noise wood pigeons make.
I’m sure it is not legal top shoot cats, people have been prosecuted round here for doing so. If anyone shot one of my cats I’d probably end up in prison for the revenge action I’d take!!!People who want to dispose of vermin would do better to stretch piano wire across the local by-pass to decapitate one or two crazy bikers doing 150 mph on the straight!!! It’s like living next to Brand’s Hatch here!!!
Getting back to torture….
Torture is not something that should be used by a civilised society in an ideal world. But then what is torture? Clearly inflicting pain to extract information is torture but what about sleep deprivation, discomfort or hunger.
In the case of terrorists I think the rules can be bent if the stakes are high enough – if someone being questioned is known to have planted a nuclear device somewhere, then I’d guess it’s OK to torture them to find its whereabouts.
There is a danger too, with torture that the wrong information is extracted. Saddam’s regime used to torture people to get them to name opponents of his regime. Torture victims named innocent people to save themselves.
With the nuclear weapon scenario, the victim would, if they gave in to torture, name the correct place for the device because they would gain nothing by naming the wrong one.
