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@anita Gofradump wrote:

Well being dead, or loss of limbs and brain damaged is just a hazard of his job, you dont go to a casino, lose all your money, then sue them.

He knew the risks when he pledged an oath infront of the painting, if you dont wanna put yourself in danger, dont sign up. I have relatives who have served in both iraq wars and in afghanistan, Ireland, Kosovo and so on and as much as i would hope nothing ever happend to them, they knew what they was getting in to when they signed up.

The world is so politically Correct, it’s bullsh!t, why dont every service persons family from every conflict come forward and sue the MOD cos oh they got injured, its ridiculous.

Exactly right Anita. Yes it,s terrible what happened to him, but, as you rightly said, he knew this kind of thing could happen when he signed up. I hurt my back years ago doing geriatric nursing. I knew when I started the job it involved a lot of lifting. I,ve never thought about sueing anyone for it. My brother was in the army.He,s been to the Falklands and Northern Ireland. My dad used to be a copper. He,s been called a pig more times than he can remember. My mum used to do geriatric nursing the same as me. No one has sued anyone because they got called a name or because they hurt themselves. It,s part of the job. Stop bloody whinging and get on with it. :roll:

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@waspish wrote:

A thirty year old drug dealer has been found tied to a lamp post and tarred and feathered an Irish punishment going back to the anglo irish early days when it was used as a punishment for any irish woman caught dabbling with the brit soldiers. personally i think its a fantastic idea and hope it catches on but im an evil cow anyway what thinks you lot eh ??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Great idea. See pics: HERE

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@forumhostpb wrote:

i see from today’s press that Gerry McCann (husband of the sainted Kate McCann) stormed out of an interview ‘live’ on spanish TV. they were being interviewed on a prime-time current affairs programme (La Noria) when the interviewer asked Mr McCann “You were the last people to see Madeleine alive, is that correct?”

McCann replied “That’s part of the investigation and we’re not going to divulge anything that might get in the way of the investigation.”

The interviewer then responded with “This investigation took a new turn this month when traces of blood were discovered in the room. When you heard that, how did you react?”

It was at this point that McCann snapped, tore off his microphone and stormed out of the interview refusing to comment.

What strange behaviour eh??? I wonder why???

So he did PB. Apparantly it was very hot and he “needed some air”.

MrMcCann

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@krazykristie wrote:

They left the children alone when there were sufficient facilities to have the children looked after. No doubt there are other facts that only the McCanns and the police know about. However I have no sympathy for them, only the little girl. What they did was neglect, regardless of where they were and who they were with. Leaving 3 children of that age alone without an adult is irresponsible. If the McCanns had their backs turned for a moment and she was taken, then it would have been a tragedy. I am sure that they are very remorseful for leaving her, but they only feel this way because she was taken. Had she not been taken then they would have carried on caring for their children in such a manner as to think it appropriate to leave them alone.

I have no time for sympathy voters on this matter. It would not have happened had they been more responsible but alot of things can be said in hindsight. Their biggest challenge will lie ahead if and when Madeleine is found. I am sure that when she is older she will undoubtedly wish to know what happened. How do you begin to explain that you were taken by whoever while Mummy and Daddy were dining with friends and had left you alone in a strange holiday apartment isn’t a conversation I envy.

Everyday people take chances with their children and 99.9% of the time, everything is ok. This just illustrates that no matter how careful you are. Don’t take chances with your children. It just isn’t worth the heartache that follows.

Very well said Kristie.

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@fastcars wrote:

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@ubermik wrote:

@fastcars wrote:

Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.

LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty

So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain

What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!

Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? There,s for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.

So which of you gossip mongers is correct then because between you you cant seem to decide if it was the front door that was left open or the patio doors.
But lets take Battys version of events that it was the patio doors as gospel.
Now looking at the photo that you yourself have posted Batty I would suggest that the patio doors lead out onto a balcony that is ringed by quite a large wall. The only possible people that may have access to this balcony “might” be the appartment adjacent but as far as I can see that would be it. There is certainly no way such a young child could escape which maybe explains why the family found it uneccessary to lock it. There is certainly no road anywhere in the vicinity as the appartment is at least two or three levels up so your exaggerated theory is exactly that. Exaggerated!

Fasty the patio doors were left unlocked so the parents could get in and out easly, thats a fact. You have completly missed the point I was trying to make, which was, IF, one of the kids had woken up and wandered out of the apartment, because of the doors being unlocked, and then got run over, would you be so quick to defend the negligent McCanns then? And yes there is a road in the vicinity, the bloody McCanns had to cross it to get to their cosy little resturant didnt they. :roll:

Did they really have to cross a road?? Because your picture suggests that the only thing between this restaurant and their appartment is a tiny hotel swimming pool. And before u suggest that a pool is just as dangerous I would find it very hard to belive that a three year old child could reach a hotel door handle… wandle down the coridoor… doubtless coming across more difficult door handles along the way. Then toddle down 3 flights of steps before eventually finding their way out to the outdoor swimming pool. And all this without being noticed by one single hotel occupant :roll:

FFS give me bloody strength. Do I have to write this in punjabi before you get my point?
When I said about the kids getting out of the apartment that was just an example I was trying but failing dismally to show. IF, note, IF, they had got out and done what I suggested and ended up getting run over, would you have been so quick to defend the useless McCanns then? Or would you have thought, like the vast majority of us would, that they were grossly negligent in leaving the doors, unlocked in the first place. Geddit now? jeez, I,m worn out now. :roll: ](*,)

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@token_male wrote:

so are the parents responsible for what happened?

or irresponsible??

alot of people need to make it clear i think as alot of covering up what people mean is happening,

Is it their fault?
a simple yes or no will do if thats not too hard

YES

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@fastcars wrote:

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@ubermik wrote:

@fastcars wrote:

Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.

LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty

So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain

What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!

Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? There,s for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.

So which of you gossip mongers is correct then because between you you cant seem to decide if it was the front door that was left open or the patio doors.
But lets take Battys version of events that it was the patio doors as gospel.
Now looking at the photo that you yourself have posted Batty I would suggest that the patio doors lead out onto a balcony that is ringed by quite a large wall. The only possible people that may have access to this balcony “might” be the appartment adjacent but as far as I can see that would be it. There is certainly no way such a young child could escape which maybe explains why the family found it uneccessary to lock it. There is certainly no road anywhere in the vicinity as the appartment is at least two or three levels up so your exaggerated theory is exactly that. Exaggerated!

Fasty the patio doors were left unlocked so the parents could get in and out easly, thats a fact. You have completly missed the point I was trying to make, which was, IF, one of the kids had woken up and wandered out of the apartment, because of the doors being unlocked, and then got run over, would you be so quick to defend the negligent McCanns then? And yes there is a road in the vicinity, the bloody McCanns had to cross it to get to their cosy little resturant didnt they. :roll:

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@fastcars wrote:

@ubermik wrote:

@fastcars wrote:

Im suprised Ubermick and Batty havent called the police about their feelings on this case. The Mcanns would have been hung drawn and quartered weeks ago if they had their way.

LOL, assuming guilt based on nothing but “feelings” is as moronically retarded as doing the same of innocence based on an equal vaccum of knowledge Fasty

So as much as you might think it would be wise to not interview them purely on “feelings” I niether thing it would be wise nor sane to punish them based on an equally lacking justification, I just dont think empathy,l sympathy and other eroneous nonsense should be cause to NOT investigate them as you would do anyone else, if they didnt do it then that would be proven, if they did, then they wouldnt really have cause to complain

What ever happened to innocent before proven quilty? You have, in your own pomous manner, slated this family from the word go with no thought to the fact that they might be completely and utterly innocent. I echo what Shazza says…. I hope the outcome of all this is the complete opposite from any of your wild assumptions and you are made to eat your (very) long and idiotic posts. Like pebbles says…. give the family a break… they have just lost a child!

Yes fasty, they have lost a child, and whose fault is that eh? It,s because of their negligence that all this bloody fiasco happened in the first place. Lets suppose for a minute, that whilst they were sitting in the bar, enjoying their cosy meal and a few drinks and a laugh with their friends, that one of the twins woke up crying for mum or dad. Tried the patio doors and, finding them open, wandered out, and across the road looking for mum and dad. A car came along and knocked them over. Would you have quite so much sympathy then? Whose fault would it be then eh? Theirs, for leaving 3 kids under the age of 4 in an unlocked apartment in the first place.

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@forumhostpb wrote:

To echo the above ….. didn’t Ian Huntley (the convicted murderer of Holly & Jessica) go to the Police and offer them his assistance in the search for them … when all the time he KNEW what had happened to them and where their bodies were concealed???

There are I am sure many many other cases in recent times where the
perpetrator(s) of a crime have offered their assistance to Police as if they were innocent members of the public.

He sure did PB. We often saw him on our local news, (Look East), standing there outside his house, which has since been demolished, offering all the help he could.

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@anita Gofradump wrote:

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@anita Gofradump wrote:

The parents did it, or have something to do with it, they dont seem upset, and they are living it up travelling the world and having there faces on tv and meeting famous people.
It’s totally ridiculous!

Your quite right Anita it is indeed. Apparantly Mr McCann is thinking of going back to work once they return to the UK. I wonder what kind of reception they will get from the media and the general public when they do return. Take a look at this, and watch the interview with Mr McCann.
LINK

He always seems so buisness like to me when he talks about his missing daughter. There isn,t a shred of emotion anywhere. Whenever the saintly pair have appeared in public, there,s no evidence to even suggest either of them have been shedding any tears, even in the first few days. I know damn well if that had been me, making a public appearance, my eyes would have been red raw and puffy.

I wonder what Mrs McCann will do when they return to the UK. Will she dump the remaining kids in pre school and go back to work as well?

They cannot return to work and normality, everyone knows who they are, and they will be hounded by the media watching there every move making it impossible for them to go back to life before.

I know what you are saying about showing no emotion etc, not long after maddy went missing, there have been a number of people on tv saying about there kids went missing years ago so they understand it etc, but every one of them have still be emotional, and for 1 woman it was 18yrs ago her kid vanished and you would think it was yesterday with how upset she was, something very wrong in this case with maddy.

Exactly right Anita. The McCanns response is in stark contrast to the mother of Ben Needham, who, years later, is still struggling to come to terms with the loss of her son.Ben
No audiences with the pope for her. Just utter devastation……still.

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