lindaclemenza7 wrote:

American Psychological Association>de…

“Depression (major depressive disorder) is common and serious medical illness that negatively affects how you feel, the way you think and how you act… .”

You can digest the rest on your own

Nice attempt to discredit me, unfortunately it didn’t work. And only served to back up everything I said. Dan, do grow up. Because your insecurities are palpable. You should really take stock and try to learn something from someone that clearly knows a lot more than you do.

rudeboy wrote:

I take studies with a pinch of salt , studies show that red meat is bad for you on a Monday, good for you on a Tuesday, lack of sleep linked to brain damage on a Wednesday , no link found on a Thursday etc etc. I think people are too quick to throw the mental health label at anything to disguise the fact many issues are nothing to do with mental health but external factors in a fairly cruel world where suffering is inevitable.

You don’t understand what mental illness is. Or what clinical depression is. It’s nothing to do with ‘life events’…

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rudeboy wrote:

I hope things improve for you Echo but would question whether depression is a mental illness or a natural state of affairs to a finite existence. Society decrees in what is perceived to be a normal life for the first 15-22 years of life we attend educational establishments normally learning material that has no relevance in the real world unless your course/degree is tailor made to a specific job. Then society demands for the next 45 years we all work in jobs which can be underpaid, mundane whilst paying extortionate prices for piles of bricks and mortar juggling obscene charges/bills in tax /energy companies etc. On top of that we all have to negotiate the daily risks of crime being stabbed/ robbed which have been alluded to on the other thread, responsibilities entailed with children/relatives etc

At the age of 65 or thereabouts society allows us to get off the rat race wheel of work with a persons best years behind them, with using a median average of life expectancy, less than 15 years left before oblivion( unless you are religious) which I’m not. Even then many of these years are likely to be dogged by ill health, suffering and possibly poverty issues as many pensioners are unable to survive on the meagre pensions paid out. The blueprint is hardly conducive to being cheerful is it?

0-16/22 years of age = learning pointless information in a flawed curriculum

22-65 years= rat race of in many cases awful futile job roles in order to be a valuable contributor to society

65 to a likely age of around 80= deteriorating health, mobility issues

80 or when the grim reaper calls= death with everything you were or are at time of death gone forever into oblivion with your corpse either incinerated or left to rot underground eaten by worms

I dont see how anyone being depressed by that set of events is mentally ill, infact I’d say it was a natural reaction to a finite existence with no discernible purpose other than satisfying the whims of each persons own conscious state during the few years we are alive.

Wow, what a response to someone saying they’re depressed. Firstly, thanks for the nihilistic and hopeless outlook on life. Secondly, depression (clinical depression as is being referenced on this thread) is not about feeling negative or hopeless at ones life situation (or the pointlessness of life in general), or going through ‘tough times’ as we all inevitably do experience at multiple points in our lives, but it is a chemical imbalance, an actual illness. It does not matter how positive or ‘upbeat’ someone is (and there are plenty of ways to be positive and look at life differently to how you clearly do) clinical depression means you simply feel dark, anxious and utterly hopeless to the point of despair. It is a dark foreboding blanket that covers everything and will not let up. People suffer with it to differing degrees, thankfully I’ve never had the experience (other than maybe brought on during comedowns from certain drugs), but I can relate to it and I’m sure it’s sheer hell. As for life being as futile as you point out, that is why people turn to religion, and want a hope for the future. You can mock them, or you can find your own way to cope with reality. However, when it comes to working 9-5 jobs for menial pay, that is a choice we all make. Many decide they don’t want that and start a business or find some other way to become successful in life. I never thought much of academia either, I will agree on the point that academic education is woefully outdated and also that particularly in recent times, further education or degrees are no longer a sufficient differentiation in the workplace, and do not guarantee a job or that you won’t struggle. Students leave university in debt and some never really get to the point they’re free and can save for retirement. But again, this is all a choice. No point moaning about it. Just find your own meaning in life and do the best you can. Be a hero, not a victim.

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This is just all sarcasm blown completely out of context by this troll ‘asian m’ who by the way trolls on guest accounts rather than using his own nick. Anyone that has seen me chatting in the room would support the fact I don’t make racist comments. But that’s all I’ll say on this just for the record in case someone stumbles upon this thread.

This is really horrible and unhelpful to those who’ve lost pets in this way. Bad post.

Trust ‘rudeboy’ to make a results-orientated post inferring it was a bad bet because they lost. Lol. Freak events happen, that has no baring on whether something is a good or bad value bet… you really need to go back to the drawing board buddy as you clearly have no concept of value, probabilities or variance. Which is why you’re a losing gambler.

They were never firing. I felt they may improve as the tournament went on but not this year! Usually Germany is so methodical, dunno what happened to them. This world cup looks pretty open. I think I’ll stick to the horses!

I backed them at 8/1 after they lost their first game and again at 10/1 when they were drawing 1-1 in their last game. They’re around 7s now. And they won the last world cup. I’ve backed them each-way so if they get to the final I will get 1/2 of the odds. so in effect 4/1 and 5/1 to get to the final. And 8/1 and 10/1 to win it. Good bet I think.

Time travel into the past is impossible for several reasons not least because of causality. A form of *relative* time travel into the future is possible (and actually occurs already on very small scales) due to time dilation.

While I don’t agree with anyone saying those sick things to mizzy, if she’s going to support the really bad trolls like morg, then she must expect to be treated the same by others. The irony is I reckon it’s morg who’s saying that stuff to her. The really sick comments are usually from morg and his compadres, so I think they are the one’s bullying mizzy, double logged. It is not enough saying she ‘disagrees’ with what they say or it’s ‘too far’ – she should not speak to them or support them in any way, shape or form. The ones who carry out all the abuse on here are the same ones they always have been. Sad, pathetic losers with no jobs, no loved ones, nothing in their lives but to abuse and attempt to hurt others online… and sadly some allow them to by taking things said on here to heart.

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