• In your dreams, you burk! lol

    I must say the decision surprises me because my understanding is that it’s illegal to make someone stateless.

    Only yesterday, Javid, the Home Sec, was saying that if he could strip her of British citizenship legally, then he would, but was stressing that this had to be on the grounds of dual citizenship.

    So…[Read more]

  • reminder of another time.

    plus ca change…

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  • You’ve left, but maybe you’ll read this reply?

    The person elected President is just that – President, not Dictator.

    The US Constitution ensures that by limiting his powers through Congress and the Supreme Court.

    If he declares a national emergency, then it gives him much greater powers. That’s why there had better be a bloody good cause – eg…[Read more]

  • Alfie, I usually defer to you as a native-born Londoner when it comes to that city,

    but

    aren’t you being a bit old-fashioned?

    The East End is the eastern end of London. About 100 years ago, London did end at Bow/Mile End (which makes Ms Begum an East Ender for sure), and East Ham was not regarded as being in London. I don’t think it was…[Read more]

  • Just back from a busy afternoon and evening.

    This thread’s gone a bit haywire, hasn’t it?

    Doubts about my past from milky (why would I lie? but to my horror  I have become culturally bourgeois over the years, I’m sorry to say), London purism from alfie (is Hackney in the East End??), and the usual trail of insults and abuse which is kinda…[Read more]

  • yup..

    apart from the fact that you seem to have a screw loose, nothing more to add atm.

  • That’s wrong, Milky.

    You have to be born within the sound of Bow Bells to be a proper Cockney. Thsat was the first thing I was told when i arrived there, a refugee from Bristol.

    The East end is a bit wider. I was in East Ham, and still visit there.

    If you’re born within the sound of Bow bells, then Shamima Begum is probably a genuine Cockney,…[Read more]

  • No show without Punch.

    I’d have thought you had given upon your defence of Nazi killers after the last try.

    I am all in favour of due process of law with regard to murders, whether they be the butchers of Lee Rigby or the butcher of Jo Cox. All found guilty as charged.

    This place is getting like one of those right-wing scandal sheets such as…[Read more]

  • Sorry :unsure:   :unsure:   :unsure:

    Where did I say that the Begum family having traditional east end values??

    They are east end.

    I lived in the east end for several years, and I know about traditnoaol east end values.

    But I also know the east ened has changed dramatically, and I’ve seen that change, and talked to original east enders about t…[Read more]

  • I was trying to find out about the background of Shamima and the Begum family. All I found was that she is from Bethnal Green. Did she know Born?? Sorry.

    But seriously, could you point me to twhere you obtained your knowledge of when and how the begum family arrived in the UK. I really can’t answer this otherwise.

    I actually did read the…[Read more]

  • ha ha ha ha. Not your style!!

    You have a hair-trigger reaction to what you read, and have sworn that you will never return more than any other person here.

    I ain’t saying bye because, as milky says, it often takes 48 hours before the flouncer returns – usually a lot less.

    If you do go, then fare thee well. Personally, I think your departure…[Read more]

  • Thin is one of the few who’s kept his head screwed on throughout this discussion.

    If she returns, she has to be either arrested or monitored like any other British radical jihadi.

    Her child will almost certainly be taken from her, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the child was adopted and kept away from her family if it’s radical.

    It’s a genuine…[Read more]

  • Citizenship rights aren’t a part of EU law – they’re a part of international law to which the UK is signed up.

    The right to a nationality is recognised to be of central importance to even the possibility of other fundamental human rights while we still have the nation state. It’s seen as ‘the right to have rights’.…[Read more]

  • I think the most encouraging thing happening in America today is the revival of American Socialism, which has a long and honourable tradition.

    Instead of poor people being treated as lazy bums, or offered charity, there’s an attempt by socialist politicians like Alessandria Ocasio-Cortez to fight back. Her Green New Deal, now being backed by many…[Read more]

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  • Not exactly what she said, sister, though I’m sure she’ll agree with you.

    I deal in serious argument. If someone says something which is bullshit, I’ll point it out.

    If people want to discuss any of my posts, they will. I find a lot of posts here deadly boring, but I keep my mouth shut. people are free to post – and to discuss – as they wish…[Read more]

  • Linda, I doubt very much that she would have had to file any papers in Syria about anything. That’s not the sort of country Syria has been for a few years now.

    I think it’s against international law to revoke anyone’s citizenship unless they have a dual citizenship. Moreover, sh’e not been away from the UK for more than 5 years.

    You’re able to…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the link.

    That was 5 years ago, and they don’t seem to have come to the conclusion that treason is the best charge to use, even for people taking up arms.

    The problem is one of law, not mere semantics – and law involves the boring old question of the meaning of words (several JC members turn off their brains at this point).

    My gue…[Read more]

  • Thanks for the link.

    That was 5 years ago, and they don’t seem to have come to the conclusion that treason is the best charge to use, even for people taking up arms.

    The problem is one of law, not mere semantics – and law involves the boring old question of the meaning of words (several JC members turn off their brains at this point).

    My guess is…

    [Read more]

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