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  • #1011686

    Those though who do remain devoted and who refuse to walk away from it, well…Deportation is one option.

    You can’t deport British citizens, that’s why I asked the question. If they have dual nationality then you can revoke it and deport them, but that wouldn’t be looked on favourably by the international community.

    Many Muslims were born in Britain, their parents and even grandparents born in Britain.

    That doesn’t nessersarily mean anything in legal terms, as we don’t have automatic birthright citizenship. But in practice these people are very likey British if they don’t live in one of the enclaves.

    We’d need a special police force of course to sniff ’em out and round ’em up

    Maybe we can share resources with Trump’s hispanic ‘deportation force’.

    Perhaps the search police could be given special arm insignia so we know when they’re around.

    Labour wants to do that with deaf people, can you explain to me why that is different because I don’t really see the distinction.

    Of course, after the our fair and pleasant land has been cleansed of Muslims, it wouldn’t surprise me if we have to sniff out other enemies of Western civilisation. I wonder who the next bunch are?

    Remoaners. ;-)

    #1011576

    Daniel Hannan’s fantasies about joining the North American Free Trade Area are pure fantasy, drac. And with the US out, it’s an even weirder fantasy for the UK to be at the heart of a NAFTA without the USA.

    I have a different oppinion of NAFTA than Danial Hannan. I think that the US wanting to leave it is a good reason for the UK to join it, and we can work with the US to make reforms to NAFTA that benifit all parties involved.

    Maybe that wouldn’t work, but I don’t see why we shouldn’t try to do it when we have the perfect oppertunity.

    You need to pay more attention to my argument. I did say that being outside any trading organisation meant having to accept WTO rules. They are very harsh, very unpleasant, as they offer none of the protections that the big trading areas offer.

    Then I misunderstood your argument. I saw an article on the Independent yesterday that was fearmongering that the UK would be blocked from WTO membership and I thought that was what you were refering to.

    Having to rely only on WTO for trade is not an ideal solution, which is why I prefer EFTA membership. Even if we don’t become permanent members it could be used as a transitionary phase after the two years of article 50 negotiations. I would prefer permanent membership personally.

    People weren’t really paying attention to the divisions within the No camp. They were listening to the main organisation saying they would be £350million a week better off if they left.

    How do you know what people were paying attention to?

    i do remember him at one point talking of having to get rid of the NHS, mind you

    I don’t know what the right solution for the NHS is, it needs serious and major reforms if we are going to keep it. I’ve spent a lot of time in hospital in the last few years and all of the hospitals are horribly mismanaged. Giving people the wrong drugs or dosages, losing medical records, people having their beds taken away while they are still in hospital, having to speak to surgeons and anaesthetists in storage closets because they don’t have an office, ect. There are lot of scary stories I could tell you that I have whitnessed, I don’t know if it’s just bad management or if its because of a lack of resources as well.

    But delay to article 50 being called gives us a chance to scout around for alternatives, even to come up with a viable plan, to assess a rapidly changing situation in Europe (where several changes of government are possible), to work on preparing new treaties.. A headlong rush to leave is a headlong rush to disaster.

    Article 50 has been ruled to be both reversable, and to have an extendable time limit. If there is any significant change in the makeup of the 27 then we can still reassess the situation at the time.

    otherwise, we’re just fed with the fantasies of joining NAFTA, of Trudeau being replaced by a pro-Brit government, of Trump somehow favouring us,etc etc etc. no substitute for the real world, you’re whistling up alliances and treaties that do not exist, and we are going to suffer, especially those who are the poorest, many of whom voted No. They were sold a deceitful little pup.

    I’m not really sure why you think its unlikely for Canada to have a pro-British government. There is a sizable minority of people there that even want to go as far as to change the flag back to the red ensign to promote ties with the Commonwealth.

    #1011538

    but if someone jackboots around the house with a swastika armband and the Horst Wessel song blaring out, I don’t think of Hindus and again my suspicious nature starts to come out.

    That clearly wasn’t the kind of person I was talking about lol. But you can’t ban a symbol for some people, but make it okay for others.

    #1011533

    Somethings just are racist. Like the N word, and these dolls. Your disregard for the people affected by perpetuating a racist trope is what makes you a racist.

    Oh, you were calling me a racist. Nothing is just anything, there always has to be a reason for it. And i’m not disregarding people affected. You claimed it was because of slavery, as far as i’m aware nobody on Just Chat is a slave, or has ever been one.

    This is like saying people who like the Ku Klux Klan robes and swastikas are into textiles and symbology?

    You are aware that the swastika is a religious symbol in both Hinduism and Jainism, it wasn’t invented by the nazis and has other uses. Hindus often paint them on their front doors, if you were to ban it then it would be offensive to them.

    Hitler doll

    Some people might find if offensive, I would disagree with them. But how would a Hitler doll be racist?

    Or to approach this from another direction, why should anyone care if its offensive, a doll doesn’t actually have the power to affect anyone in a meaningful way. Nobody has the right not to be offended.

    #1011531

    as we all know people NEVER put fakey pics on here do they!

    I would never do something like that myself, this is definitely what I look like.

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    #1011529

    Bloss you seem obsessed with the fact that everything everyone tells you , you read or see is a lie or fake. Personally I think it’s you that might be you that has the issues.

    I thinkt that pretty much everyone has an issue of some kind or another.

    #1011528

    Tinsel was asking if there were any black people who post here..and whether they were offended, so I presumed Sophia was black as she replied.

    I have ~10% north African ancestry in my DNA if that is enough to count.

    Your comment oozes racism most likely from the upbringing of racist parents.

    Who? Where?

    I haven’t seen anything I would call racist.

    #1011526

    So why are you jumping on the band wagon? you have no black family? Oh i forgot ur paranoia makes you. :wacko:

    Why does it matter if she has black family or not? How do you even know that she doesn’t?

    But you still haven’t been able describe why you find them offensive.

    #1011505

    Canada may change when they discover that Trudeau is Casto in disguises??

    It would explain his bizzare reaction to Castro’s death. If I had to choose a conspiracy theory to believe it would be this one.

    But it’s more his policies that will make him very unpopular, such as a massive increace in fuel tax in a country where you have to drive for hundreds of miles to get to the next city, which will make travel very expensive for individuals and increace the prices of postage and supermarket goods that are transported by road.

    join NAFTA???!!! pull the other one

    Why do you think this is unlikely? Daniel Hannan (One of the main Tory leavers) has been saying we should do that for years, and if we were to do that then now seems like the best time to make reforms given Trump’s negative view of it.

    These musings are a measure of the vacuum into whihc the UK is stepping.

    They are oppertunities that are now open for use to explore now that the EU can’t prevent us from doing so.

    We could also be very very unlucky and end up in 2019 with being outside any trading organisation.

    If you are talking about being blocked from WTO, that is a bunch of nonsense. They aren’t going to refuse one of the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council (i.e. The people that decide what count as a country for the purposes of international treaties such as the WTO).

    I particularly dont remember lord farage of Trumpsbum pointing out that people will be worse off if we leave – if he did. it was pretty much kept under wraps by the media.

    There are lots of interviews of Farage dismissing Boris Johnson’s claims from when the campaign was still running. (Especially the NHS bus).

    I seriously believe that you wouldn’t have won if you had told that truth.

    Well I think the same about the remain campaign. :unsure:

    My hope is for delay in Article 50, which depends n the Supreme Court – and I have no idea what their decision will be, though I am led to believe that the government’s case is not legally strong. That way, a chance for the EFTA-type solution you want, drac (surely the best of the hopes if we do leave) may be more realistic.

    Why would delaying Article 50 do that? It sounds like you just clutching at straws for a way to prevent us from leaving.

    #1011504

    It sounds like litterally every human who has ever lived to me.

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