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2 December, 2017 at 6:53 pm #1081206
God reveals themselves he then takes away the thing he values above all freewill
I think that’s the answer to drac’s second argument about worship. Thank you, paige.
It’s not an answer.
Giving someone information to make an informed choice does not take away their free will.
If free will exists, which I don’t believe it does.
1 December, 2017 at 8:41 pm #1081120The real question is not does god exist the real question is what would be gained by god revealing themselves
If a god or gods want to be worshiped, then they would gain more worshipers by proving that they exist.
If they don’t want to be worshiped, then why are people worshiping them against the wishes of their god?
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1 December, 2017 at 8:38 pm #1081118How can you say science can prove things? It shows a total ignorance of science. Science is about the testing of hypotheses, and the hypotheses are constantly being disproved. Very few scientists (other than Dawkins) believe that science proves things. Even Dawkins, in a moment of self-honesty, admitted that some force may well have created teh cosmos. Science just can’t prove or disprove the existence of a God. If God created the cosmos, science was created along with everything else. Science is part of the puzzle, not the solution to the puzzle.
It’s fairly simple to prove the existance of a god, if one exists. If it interacts with the universe, in any way, then that interaction is measurable. Such an interaction has never been detected however, which must conclude that either a god doesn’t exist, that a god that doesn’t interact with the universe exists (in which case it might as well not exist), or god actively avoids detection (which is strange behaviour for something that supposedly wants to be worshiped).
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29 November, 2017 at 9:51 pm #108086728 November, 2017 at 9:01 pm #1080603Why is there a “fear” to discuss religion in public nowadays?
Do you mean that there is a fear for religious people to discuss their religion, or that there is a fear for people to discuss a religion that they are not part of?
27 November, 2017 at 10:42 pm #1080481Discussion of opinion regarding religion is fine — attacking others for their beliefs (or lack of) — is not.
What if they believe you should be executed?
Is that an attack on you, and should you?
Should you be allowed to defend yourself?
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15 November, 2017 at 8:08 pm #107919614 November, 2017 at 10:59 pm #1079115Your evidence for the entire statement which I quoted. Post your source please.
Regarding the mandate of insurance:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-does-obamacare-mandate-health-insurance/
As for people prefering to pay the penalty fee instead of insuance, I can’t provide evidence of that without posting screenshots of personal conversations. Many of which I don’t even know if I could access if I did want to post them, they go back a few years now.
14 November, 2017 at 9:52 pm #1079106Where is your evidence for this, post your source please.
Evidence that health insurance is expensive?
Or that Obamacare is largely a legal requirement to purchase said insurance?
14 November, 2017 at 8:20 pm #1079089Obama had Obamacare – whatever your opinion of it,
It’s one of the dumbest things i’ve ever heard of.
The problem is that health insurance is too expensive for working class people to afford. His solution was to introduce a legal requirement to purchase insurance or you are fined.
A lot of people just choose to pay the fines because it’s cheaper than the insurance they would otherwise have to purchase against their will.
He pushed it through against phenomenal opposition. Trump has none.
By unconstitutional executive orders, which was a presidential power he massively expanded during his time.
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