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May’s not a competent politician, either.
She’s a competent politician, but not a competent leader. There is a slight difference that should be made there. But I generally agree.
We’re in agreement over the EEA as a solution, then?
I fudementally disagree with the core concepts of the EEA. It is not a solution to anything, it shouldn’t exist.
EFTA membership would be a possible solution if major reforms were made to it, which isn’t going to happen anytime soon. Although from what I understand Norway wants to make changes to it that are similar to what I would want, and I think we could work with them on this in the future.
That’s right Milky, as a socialist I did vote to leave the neo-liberal EU cartel
Lol, the EU is a cartel, but a protectionist cartel.
That is the oposite of neo-liberalism.
hat’s how Thatcher became PM – by default, because Labour broke down as a government.
Thatcher was a competant polititian though, even if you don’t agree with her.
Corbyn has appointed a Marxist who celebrated the 2008 recession as Shadow Chancellor, which should a decision that should be obviously bad to most people. Worse still is Dianne Abbot having any position in the cabinet, especially a position as important as Home Secretary.
Corbyn is a joke.
Norway is a member of the European Economic Area, which gives the country full access to the Single Market in return for free movement of capital and labour. I’d be happy with that to be going on with, and come March 2019 that could well be the outcome. There’s no majority for it, though.
They also have the power to negotiate foreign trade deals and are not subject to have their laws ‘reinterpreted’ by the ECJ.
No majority for a clean break on WTO rules in either parliament, the Cabinet or the country.
That is what will happen if there is no deal. It happens automatically, it doesn’t needa majority.
No majority for a close association with the EU through membership of the Customs Union or Single market, like Norway.
Norway isn’t in the customs union.
I agree, drac, that Corbyn is not wanted by the majority, but don’t underestimate him.
He ran against the worst Conservative campaign, possible the worst campaign ever in British politics, and still lost by a significant proportion of votes.
A campaign that was largely advertised as “Kill foxes and old people”, and he lost.
That’s assuming there is a unanimous decision by the EU 27 parliaments to agree to a deal. All it takes is one country to say no, and we are faced with the stark choice of leave without a deal or stay in.
As far as i’m aware of the EU now uses QMV not absolute majority for most things now. I know that they changed to QMV for trade deals after Belgium vetoed TTIP.
Which is fairly typical of how the EU works, if you don’t get the result you want then you change the rules.
And Corbyn is waiting on the wings. He could well be PM sooner rather than later. Then there’ll be fun – and not all of it pleasant.
Nobody wants Corbyn to be PM, except Momentum.
I’ve been self employed for a few years now, I would never want to go back to working for someone else.
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Can we have a thumbs down button for comments we dont like?
Why not contribute to the thread instead of mindless soundbytes
A thumbs down button would be good tbh.
Europe is beyond help now
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is stupid”
- “Men is bad”
- “Men is stupid”
- “Womens deserve money”
- “Be fake”
Good advice there
