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Drac, with all due respect, that is not the same as 50% of Muslims support the radicals.
This is true, but it is still the point that I wanted to make that it is not a ‘tiny minority’ of muslims as you suggested that support this kind of action.
Drac, with all due respect, that is not the same as 50% of Muslims support the radicals. That’s a reference to Islamic students, and it’s not a question about ISIS or radical terrorism.
This is true, but it is still the point that I wanted to make that it is not a ‘tiny minority’ of muslims as you suggested that support this kind of action.
I’ll try and find one of the studies later.
I can’t find the studies just now, but I will instead present a data point for the Centre For Social Cohesion study, which I have used before.
When posed with the question “Is it ever justifiable to kill in the name of religion?” Only 53% of muslim students directly answered no, which means that 47% of them have some level of support for killing.
Non-muslim students answered 94% no.
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But can i also ask please remember when you’re slinging your racist or religious remarks about that many taxi drivers offering free rides home last night were Muslim, a number of doctors rushing to hospitals on there days off and working through the night to help keep people alive will be Muslim, the police officers desperately trying to reunite families and apprehend these psychopaths this morning will be Muslim.
You are the only person to have mentioned race, maybe you should think about why you have done so.
These people who carried out this devastating attack are not Muslims, they are ISIS a terrorist cult
ISIS follows the Wahabi interpretation of islam, the same as Saudi Arabia. Are you claiming that Saudis are also not muslim?
When people say Islam is responsible, the people of Manchester demonstrated their disgust and booed them off the streets. As I said, this shows that we are better than the killers; our society and our way of life and our respect for life shines compared with their way of death.
I don’t actually agree with this at all, they have the right to freedom of speech, and they should not have been shut down. A society that treats disgreement with disgust is not one that I wish to live in.
I would be very interested in where this quotation appears in the Koran. I’d be grateful if you gave me chapter and verse.
I think he is refering to Surah 9:5 “When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way. God is forgiving and merciful.“, which referes specifically to pagans, but there are many similar verses that apply to athiests and polytheists in general.
Drac, a lot of your points are digressive.But where in hell do you get any impartial survey whihc states that 50% of British Muslims are radicals, or even sympathise with radicals? Do you know how many British citizens that would be??
I’ll try and find one of the studies later.
I’m not afraid of criticising you, drac, and criticising without insulting you as a person.
They had a member of Counter-intelligence on BBC at lunchtime. He said that the ones you worry about are not those who chant, or those who wear burkas. They’re the ones who appear to be normal.. who don’t chant, who don’t wear clothes whihc would draw suspicion.
Most suicide bombers are men, so they wouldn’t wear burkas
.But you should be worried about women who wear them, but for other reasons.
Being a Muslim doesn’t mean you’re a killer, any more than being a white man means you’re a rapist.
I agree, but it significantly raises the probablility of someone will become a killer if they are Muslim. I’m not sure why you used whites as an example, I think muslims are the demographic most likely to commit rape also, although I would have to check statistics on that one.
The radicals who either kill or give active support to killers, like the actual rapists, are a tiny minority.
There are multiple studies that show as many as 50% of British muslims either support or have sympathies towards ISIS, I would not call that a tiny minority.
any more than rapists are easily distinguishable fomr the mass of men – until it’s too late.
Women can commit rape too, I’m not sure why you implied that only men do it.
I’m glad your boyfriend wasn’t hurt, and I’ve occasionally felt anxiety for loved ones too.
Thankyou. I will repeat something that I said on a previous topic for people who havent seen it, but I lost a close friend in the Brussels bombings a couple of years ago. So I know what the friends and family of the victims of this attack are feeling.
The people of Manchester demonstrated what they think of right-wing extremists when the English Defence League tried to start an anti-Muslim demonstration in the city yesterday – the y ere booed off the streets.
I’m not really sure that I would describe EDL as right wing, i’ve never seen them adocate for free markets. I think this is a case of people labeling everything they don’t like as ‘right wing’, which seems to be common on the left. Tommy Robinson however currently works for Rebel Media, who are a right wing outlet.
Manchester’s reaction is the best one. Revulsion, but refusal to hunt down innocent people merely because they belong to the same religion.
I don’t think that anyone has suggested or thinks that should happen.
Yeah yeah – and you weren’t being a bit insulting were you (!) when you suggested people responding to this thread were ‘virtue signalling’ i.e. being insincere / self-serving rather than expressing their genuine feelings.
I haven’t seen anything other than virtue signaling in this thread. Your hostile reaction to my disagreement confirms this.
If you don’t want to be criticised, don’t be critical of others. Simples.
Personally, I welcome criticism. It is one of the best ways to improve yourself.
