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Figures for what?
Population density of England
Much of Scotland is uninhabitable so you should be looking at figures for England which is a country in its own right rather than Scotland etc unless we should all have to migrate there due to the obscene numbers south of Hadrians wall.
If you have those figures then I would like to see them.
we have made a democratic decision and we will be made to suffer for it ( EU has openly said so )
The EU has a very weak negotiating position, for many reasons, but chiefly that the UK’s budget contribution and military power cannot be replaced, and secondly that the EU may not even exist in a few years depending on the outcome of elections. If Le Pen wins in France then it is likely that the EU will collapse shortly afterwards if she follows though on her campaign promises to leave the Eurozone and end freedom of movement.
however already we have back peddling by government e.g. immigration not to be restricted for at least 5 years. all ongoing EU rules etc to be adopted and so on.
Failure to address these concerns will result in a Tory/UKIP coalition in 2020, I think this is fairly certain regarless of how you feel about UKIP or it’s current management problems.
no real changes to immigration control etc another referendum will be held .
There will never be a second referendum, the only way that would happen is if the Lib Dems had a majority government in 2020, which is nearly impossible and would already be too late.
aving suffered badly by leaving made to go cap in hand to EU asking to rejoin? thus allowing EU to say it was right all along and remainers pushing leaving voters to set aside any thought of self governance or independence as economic needs outweigh sovereignty and desire for freedom etc.
The EU has nothing to offer Britain.
one tries not to be cynical but wonder if government is quietly paving way for UK ltd to fail after leaving in order to do vote right way? after all didn’t we see Ireland having to vote again and again until it voted ‘ correctly’.
This is what the EU does in southern and eastern Europe commonly, but I don’t think it has enough influence here to achieve that. I don’t think the Tories are stupid enough to do this either, they know they will hemorage voters to UKIP if it was discovered.
Okay, so let’s look at some facts then, British territories are some of the most populated areas in the world per Km2. Gibraltar is the 5th highest density at 12,624 per Km2, Bermuda is 9th at 3,310 per Km2, Jersey is 13th at 2,186 per Km2, Guernsey is 14th at 2,072 per Km2 and Britain itself is 51st at 694 per Km2. 51st place may not sound like a lot but I think the following image should provide some context as to what this means.
And yes, I know only Gibraltar and Britain are included in the EU’s freedom of movement, but that does not change the fact that overpopulation in general is an issue for British managed territories.
To suggest this country is overcrowded is just not backed up by any hard facts. Urbanisation has made the UK crowded, not a lack of land
Okay, so let’s look at some facts then, British territories are some of the most populated areas in the world per Km2. Gibraltar is the 5th highest density at 12,624 per Km2, Bermuda is 9th at 3,310 per Km2, Jersey is 13th at 2,186 per Km2, Guernsey is 14th at 2,072 per Km2 and Britain itself is 51st at 694 per Km2. 51st place may not sound like a lot but I think the following image should provide some context as to what this means.
So yes, overpopulation is definitely a problem here.
Who have been paid an absulute small fortune by the EU, our money btw, not to farm and a direct consequence has been land hogging, pushing up the cost of land and house prices. Keeping supply low and so those prices high and yet another indirect EU created cartel.
This is mostly accurate, but that is not the only reason why property prices are high, failure to introduce proper pricing controls and foreign investment, especially in London are to blame also.
To suggest economic migration can be controlled immediately, while so much of our service sector driven economy is still reliant on the cheap movement of labor, is just not currently realistic.
Cheap labour already exists due to free movement, continueing to allow this will further lower the cost of labour and make the problem worse.
That we are now somehow stuck with the tories and the right wing, the liberal class is also right wing and so get off your arses and vote for an alternative and if there isn’t an alternative (which there isn’t currently) then your beloved neoliberal EU cartel is indirectly responsible.
The left is completely unable to respond to this, and will be unable to for a decade or two most likely. In addition, neo-liberalism is about as far to the right as it is possible to go, it is in no means a left wing ideal.
EU membership has guaranteed that the political class, not just in the UK but all over Europe, is now lazy and self entitled. They churn out language like “progressive” which means absolutely nothing in real terms and ultimately there is nothing progressive about EU membership unless you are an impoverished economic migrant from Eastern Europe etc.
I don’t think you really understand what the term progressive means, it is somewhat complicated and would require a thread of it’s own to fully discuss. But I would describe it as a term used to describe the common goals shared by the actual far right (neo-liberals), and the far left. The right can import people to act as a cheap labour force, and the left can pretend they are helping the ‘oppressed classes’.
The liberal EU class now tell us that the likes of Corbyn are “hard left” when 60 years ago he would have been considered barely to the centre of the left.
I don’t really think this is an accurate description of Corbyn’s political positions. You are talking about the man who removed the long standing ban on trotskyists from joining the Labour party, and is only kept in power as far as I can see by Momentum, who I would describe as being neo-marxist. Corbyn himself may or may not be a true believer in the far left, but he is in a position where he must act in their interests to maintain his own position.
The rest is just faff, modelled on Drac’s tactici of salami slicing sentences to accurately represent their meaning and commenting on them
Thankyou
Why are you quoting a black supremacist?
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BB continues to try to whip up a civil war against peaceful muslims.
Peaceful muslims who would vote to put me in prison given a chance to.
That’s a very good question and having looked it up on urban dictionary
Urban Dictionary is underrated.
No, you’re missing the point. Politics rule our lives – football or music doesn’t.
I’m not sure a lot of football fans would agree with this statment, lol.
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