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@pikey wrote:
I don’t think it is a cynical ploy. Surely past events show that there really are people out there who want to murder us en masse. As for their tactics, they’re quite willing to experiment and vary. I seem to remember something happening on the underground one summer.
Kind of interesting how that on 9/11 and 7/7 both the NYFD and the London fire services were conducting “a training excercise”. Im not sure what happened on these days, but i dont jump to the conclusion that what the governments say is 100% factual.
A note on Iraq: The wider legality of the Iraq war is open to debate. However, it should be noted that the government has won an election since. It may be argued, wrongly in my opinion as I will explain below, that the government’s foreign policy opened up this particular can of worms but the British people had an opportunity to topple them for it at that election. They failed to do so and thus legitimised it. It is the electorate that is responsible now, not just the government.
Do you think people voted labour knowing that they’d be terror targets because of?
I don’t think it matters a fig what nationality the terrorists are. It certainly doesn’t to them. Radical Islam is a thoroughly multinational effort. Judging by the results of the recent Channel 4 poll of Muslim opinion, I would put the proportion of British Muslims prepared to either directly or indirectly support violent action against the UK and its citizens at somewhere below ten per cent. A worrying proportion but completely divorced from illegal immigration. These chaps are substantially home grown.
Why do they care more about their foreign brothers than us?
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Emma, firstly I don’t believe you’re telling the truth.
Why?
Secondly, you’re someone who has no compassion at all for her fellow human beings so why should I give a damn about you or your family?
:roll: I cant believe your brain has the capacity to keep you alive :wink: on what evidence do you know i dont care? And if you describe a certain type of person, can i show you the same, wont you just look a prat :D
You spend your life preaching hatred towards other people and then you come on here with your pathetic sob story fishing for sympathy.
What are you doing now if its not preaching hatred :roll: do you ever use your brain?
I certainly wouldn’t seek sympathy from you, you have the heart of a monster.Boo hoo, cry me a river. When you start caring about other people, I’ll start caring about what happens to you. As ye sow, so shall ye reap.
You havn’t got the capacity to care, you base your hatred extremism on lies.
French minister says, suspects “appear to be of pakistani origin”.
@Magoo wrote:
The intelligence services most certainly have saved many lives. And I’m sure the spin coming from the mouths of Labour leaders is designed for us to thank our glorious PM and associated cronies. But the wider picture is, we illegally invaded foriegn soil and we are paying the price for it. As far as extremist muslims are concerned they are at war with us. So they will take the foiled action as legitimate. Blair is to blame, not to praise, for dragging us into a situation we did not want. I’ve said it before, politicians won’t die for the actions they take, innocent civilians will be their bomb blast protection. We don’t have the luxury of bodyguards, bunkers and anti terrorist forces checking everywhere we go.
I hate terrorists in any form, whether or not I try hard to understand what causes extremism.
Blair put us in the frontline and now we are reaping the benefits!!!
Blair is an extremist!!
James Belfast wrote:Because it only takes a small amount of explosives to bring down an aircraft and it’s more spectacular.
Thats what i thought initially, but experts reckon these terrorists are extremely dedicated, and who would see the planes crash, a few by-standers, dont suppose many will have their cameras out waiting…
As will cancellation of thousands of planned flights
Not in the same way, economic people will be dead, important jobs wont be booming the economy.
Erm…nope, it’s another Emma rant.
Not rant, just a question…Not all ‘illegals’ are terrorists and the authorities seem to have done well protecting us from the ‘bad guys’ in this instance. In any case, didn’t the reports say those arrested were British citizens?
Did i say all illegals are terrorists…we dont know what they’ve protected us from yet. We only know what they tell us, which could be anything.I’m sure they will be quickly identified as fundamentalists and, as I am sure you will recognise (ok, maybe not you but non-facists will), there is a difference between normal muslims and fundamentalist muslims.
Your an ignorant fvck aint ya.Rant, Rant, Rant
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@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
Theres no need to be ignorant pikey, thats not nice :(
We lived in an area where the locals (asian and african) were 99.9 not white. My dad had what was considered a good job in the area. It was only just round the corner from where we lived, and he used to have to take a block of wood for protection.
The image of that pretty much explains things. Anyway, it was made clear to us that a white man should not have the job and not live there, and that if we didnt leave, they’d be trouble. If i remember correctly, our cat “lucky” was killed, cant remember how, may have been accident, who knows.
Ive already explained this to slayer months ago.
Its not a nice thing to go through, so please dont try winding me up about it, or taking the p. White people have been victims of ethnic cleansing in England. To the great unwashed public of England (who watch eastenders and coronation st etc), it may seem like fiction, but it has and does happen.
Ive heard of an Englishwoman being cleansed in scotland. No doubt some non white or non english have had it happen. Multiculturalism does not work.
Do I hear violins playing in the background? Of course Emma, we always take everything you say at face value. Basically, what you’re saying is that your cat disappeared and so your dad quit his job and moved house. That sounds really credible. I suppose he ended up in the same job centre that Ugo used.
You call yourself human right :(
What is it about the miserable old gits at new labour and conservative headquarters that they think there justified in killing british muslims foreign brothers ilegally.
No wonder theres a wave of british muslims that dont like westerners.
@slayer wrote:
Nah- I’ve always been like this since before I can remember- I’ve been treated well and been treated like sh/yte by all sorts of different creeds, colours and races. If anything my first wife (bwi), and now thankfully ex, would have made me a white supremacist but her actions where those of a woman and nothing to do with colour (and not typical of all women either).
Are you saying your an easily led individual?
@slayer wrote:
Emma, can you not see that comments like this, which are so patronising, like a mother talking to a wayward child “there, there diddums, it’s not your fault your bad, it’s the nasty people who made you do it” AND
comments like “non whites” and “my country”- try British citizens and Britain and I’ll consider the response rational
You mean the similar patronisation to how you described it?
Immigration has been debated for years- the Tory media (Mail and Express) have been banging the drum for years so please don’t kid yourself the BNP somehow has a moral high ground on an immigration debate
:roll: Everyone thinks its their number one policy…
No, the BNP does NOT have a solution to immigration, it has a policy of repatriation- this is not, under any circumstances a “solution”
WRONG again, stop telling lies. They have a repatriation policy for those who want it. And people would want it, so it would be a solution. Only today, on sky news a asian female who works for the independant, explained that foreigners would like to go home, even herslef, who’s been here 30 years, and she is a pro multiculturalist like you.
@slayer wrote:
I agree- people will elect to remain within their comfort zone hence the ex-pats who live in Spain tend to congregate in the same areas but does that mean they cannot integrate into the local economy, culture and environment?
Are you a pro multiculturalist because your family isnt all white/English?
It’s a chicken and egg- people stay within their comfort zone because they are scared to venture outside of it, yet the only way to break the fear is to step outside the box- catholics and protestants (for example) will never learn to live together unless they actually do that, will never learn about each other views, values and viewpoint (other than that espoused by the most vocal within their own community which, ala Ian Paisley, tend to be negative).
You say that like its against the law to do otherwise.
The dangers of demonising one section of a neighbourhood community are clear throughout history- Rwanda, Greek Christian and Turkish Muslims in the Ottoman empire, Bosnia, Nazi Germany-
Whats the answer?
The human race, for all it’s intelligence, very rarely learns from it’s mistakes and hence continues to make them.
Very true, we thought multiculturalism would work, how stupid we were.
