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9 August, 2006 at 1:47 pm #234112
@slayer wrote:
parts of belfast and londonderry clearly are and I wouldn’t suggest otherwise- but to me, Northern Ireland demonstrated what happens when you do segregate communities- the demonisation of the other community, the polarisation of extreme views and the decades of work required to get 2 people, to actually talk to each other.
It will take decades more before the end result is proved to be successful but it has to be better than segregation
Its a shame humans arnt robots, then we could be programed to accept rock n roll even if we hate it with a passion.
You pro multiculturalists live in a dream world.
9 August, 2006 at 1:44 pm #234111@slayer wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
@Magoo wrote:
You could just as easily be talking about the Jewish faith in the middle east.
Then the same applies. Both want to live in a segregated world to us anyway. I say ok, get your own little corner of England, see how you live without us :D
you could just as easily use the analogy of Catholicism and Protestantism- history shows the conflict and millions of lives lost in this battle across the western world and lately in Northern Ireland- are catholics and protestants incompatible and should be segregated and living apart?
If they want it. Which it seems they do.
9 August, 2006 at 1:43 pm #234110@cath 55 wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
@Magoo wrote:
You could just as easily be talking about the Jewish faith in the middle east.
Then the same applies. Both want to live in a segregated world to us anyway. I say ok, get your own little corner of England, see how you live without us :D
ok Emma quantify segregated world to us????
Why?
9 August, 2006 at 1:11 pm #233669@cath 55 wrote:
I think the problem is , isnt the fact that emma supports the BNP .
to me one of the problems is the stereotyping and generalisation that all people of colour or different religion are bad people. Emma just because you came across a pocket of people who gave you and your family an extremely bad deal, it doesnt mean that all of the rest of the population of their colour or religion are all the same fgs. do not tar people with the same brush!!When have i EVER said i hate all non whites, WHEN???????????????????
Some of you guys REALLY believe the hype, the anti-BNP hype, and that all who support them are crazed minded racists who hate hate hate.
Ive said, i hate more white English than non whites.
Ive said, it is NOT the fault of non whites as to why we have a problem in my country, that is also what the BNP say, try and LISTEN?
How many times do i have to say this before you guys acknowledge it, and it sticks in your brain before you say im hate such n such, come on people, take part here.the other thing i want to point out is you obviously have a lot of passion and energy, so instead of spending your energy offering us negative stories offer solutions as well. the BNP is not the b all and end all fgs……….
I never said there were. I think they are the best option of making my country greater to live in.
John reid has just said its not racist to say immigration is a problem, yippee.Now ask yourselves these very important questions:
Which party has been asking for the debate about immigration the most? BNP
Which party has offered a solution to immigration? BNP
Which party has said “close the borders now”? BNPWhich party do you prefer listening to? New labour/conservatives.
Which party let millions in, thats caused the problem? new labour/conservatives
Which party is responsible? new labour/conservatives.you constantly quote stories of violence generated by a small minority of black/asian etc but i dont think i have seen you pick out any stories of violence,unrest or injustices by the ‘white british’ yet
Dont need to, the media do it for me/us. Im just trying to balance things up.
a prime example, are the BNP going to be up in arms about the current news story about the paedophile who has just been jailed for 12 years for a list of sex offences against children and who has alledgedly got the remains of 2 children buried in the garden of his home?
Ive read the BNP, report on peadophiles many a time, and show their disgust. They also have links to a support group of anti-peadophiles in lancashire.
did the BNP report about the killing of a young boy in liverpool by ‘white british’ are the BNP going to report an old ladyof 93 was raped , robbed and left for dead by a ‘white british man’ ? no i think not.
I dont know. Did the media? has anyone else here heard about it? have you heard about the incidents local to me? Has any political party reported the above?
We dont always reply to everything spoken in JC, that we’d like to. One thing is clear, that you brought it to our attention, and now we do know. MORE!!9 August, 2006 at 12:43 pm #233668@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
emaa is blinded by the BNP. She has posted lies to further her case.
If her father was having problems in a predominantly black/asian area, I believe HE had the problem.I could live in the same area and I KNOW I wouldn’t have any racial issues directed at me.
No im not you fascist. Explain to us all what problem my dad had with black/asian people?
Gosh you are daft. You might like someone, they might not like you regardless.
9 August, 2006 at 12:34 pm #233667@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
@Tory Girl wrote:
@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
@Tory Girl wrote:
I don’t come from a politically minded family, so where did my political interest come from then? Just because Emma believes strongly in the BNP does not mean she comes from a rascit family!!! :roll:
If emmas’ father had a problem with people of a different colour, and she has a problem with people of a different colour, doesn’t that tell you something?
He had a problem because he was being threatened or did you not read emma’s post properly?
He was being threatened because he was intolerant! :roll:
:roll: where have i said my dad was being intolerant? My dad has always voted labour, even now, a party who wants mass immigration, who welcome non whites for votes.
8 August, 2006 at 11:42 pm #233644@cath 55 wrote:
oh for goodness sakes emma!!!!!!!!!! ok lets look at this ……. your father had to defend himself against non whites where you were living , and it was so uncomfortable and scary u moved??????? emma come on whilst i have every sympathy with u for ur situation which was and is in our society unacceptable but hardly ethnic cleansing hun…….i’ve no doubt it was awfull for you and your family and i have every sypathy with u , (honestly) but hardly a reason to start the lets hate every non white or diff nationality xxx
Its hard to workout whether your serious or completely ignorant.
WE WERE TOLD TO GET OUT THE AREA BECAUSE THE WHITE MAN WAS NOT ALLOWED THE JOB AND LIVE THERE. We were threatened.
THAT, is ethnic cleansing and it doesnt mean i hate all non whites or non English because of. I hate more white people, mostly English, than any other race of people.
8 August, 2006 at 11:30 pm #234102@Magoo wrote:
You could just as easily be talking about the Jewish faith in the middle east.
Then the same applies. Both want to live in a segregated world to us anyway. I say ok, get your own little corner of England, see how you live without us :D
8 August, 2006 at 11:18 pm #233642@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
If you inherited your attitude to foreigners from your father, it’s plain to see why he had to defend himself. :roll:
I hope you die, how dare you make light of what happened to me and my family, you disgusting useless excuse for a human being.
8 August, 2006 at 10:55 pm #233640Ive come to expect intolerant fascism from posters towards me in here, and your no exception pikey.
Think of it this way, what you consider ethnic cleansing via those pictures, could be summed up as premiership football, and what i described being non league.
They may be worlds away in terms of horror, but they still play the same game.
I guess you just dont wana admit that white people can and do become victims of ethnic cleansing.
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