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3 January, 2007 at 12:24 am #253504
Steven – I don’t posts the nominations, all of your friends on here do it. If they consider you a worthy contender then I guess they wil put you forward.
3 January, 2007 at 12:10 am #253501Do you suppose that Steven could get a nomination for dummy spitter of the year?????
3 January, 2007 at 12:01 am #254802Well this is all well and good Dawny, but Cas hasn’t suggested that the driver of this motorised wheelchair was drunk at the time of the accident. Simply that her aged mother got run into by one – and sadly was injured.
We assume that this acident happened on a pavement and that therefore the vehicle was a Class2 – speed restricted vehicle.
It could have been a total accident; it could have been an avoidable accident; it could even have been deliberate – we simply do not know, hence my questions.
However, the real underlying issue is that these conveyances are not classed as ”vehicles” within the meaning of the various Road Traffic Acts. A Class 3 scooter is considered a vehicle under the Road Traffic Acts in that there is a mandatory requirement for front and rear lights and Indicators if used on a road (but not a pavement). They are however exempt from Road Fund Licence and number plates under special rules. A class 2 scooter is exempt from these requirements but is confined to use only on the pavement.
So if you want to take issue with the use of these scooters then you need to campaign for a change in the Mobility Vehicle Regulations so that their use is restricted ONLY to those who hold a proper licence to drive them and are fully insured, and comply with the Road Traffic Acts etc etc.
Of course if you do this you will find that those disabled people who rely on using them to get around may well not be able to comply with the Road Traffic Act requirements and thus be confined to a wheelchair or their homes.
Tough choice isn’t it???
2 January, 2007 at 11:26 pm #254771Well apparently this doggy WAS a pit bull type (as has been confirmed by DNA) so I guess it was illegal to possess it – but it was just a lovable cuddly family woofer.
Its owners have said that it didn’t have an aggressive bone in its body – end of !!
As it was such a nice family pet, and everybody loved it, it must have been provoked in some way. Can’t have been fireworks at 4.00 in the morning. Could it have been burgulars?? Could it have been the little girl’s parents coming home pissed after New Year’s eve parties?? Could the owners have been doing drugs??
These questions need answers.
2 January, 2007 at 11:15 pm #253492Hello Steven – nice of you to leave Forum 2 to speak with us for a bit.
2 January, 2007 at 11:07 pm #254866@emmalush wrote:
The far left, searchlight/stopthebnp, bbc, new labour etc, hate the BNP with a real passion, maybe PB is one of them? What is your political and social stance PB?
I don’t think I have one Emma – I just like to take the piss out of all of them.
2 January, 2007 at 11:04 pm #254861@emmalush wrote:
Saddam got ALL the votes from a 100% turnout. Perfect leader :wink: then blair n bush came along and gatecrashed the party, jealous idiots.
I thought that Saddam missed out on the New Year’s party??? (Mind you he apparently had a swinging time all by himself)
2 January, 2007 at 11:03 pm #254796@*Dawny* wrote:
It wasnt directed at you Pats
And I hope it wasn’t directed at me either!!!
I want some more information before I sign up to a petition permanently banning the use of these mobility devices for the disabled. So far none has been forthcoming.
2 January, 2007 at 4:04 pm #254786Well, Geoff Adams-Spink – the BBC News website disability affairs correspondent is on the record as saying “Eight fatalities and a thousand injuries last year is not to be sneezed at.”
This begs the question – how many fatalities or injuries ARE to be sneezed at???
2 January, 2007 at 1:10 pm #254783@fastcars wrote:
In fact Cas….. because this is quite a serious campaign you are asking us all at JC to help fight for you I have taken the time and trouble to research this and I cant find a mobility scooter that travels above 8mph.
Even the classy “Shoprider Deluxe”… (pictured below) with its all weather canopy and puncture proof tyres can only manage a top speed of 6.5mph…. weather conditions permitting of course.
Wow Fastcars, that is a cool machine!! I bet they cost a fortune to buy as well.
However, I agree with your point – before we throw the entire might and resources of JustChat behind this campaign to bring the reckless use of mobility scooters to an halt, we really do need to know a little bit more about the circumstances of this incident.
For example, the complaint referred to a ”hit and run”. At a top speed of some 6.5 mph, how on earth can that constitute ‘running’??? After all the vehicle can hardly be the sort of thing your average chav or ASBO boy would use and surely a kindly old Grandpa wouldn’t go racing down pavements with a bottle of whisky in his hand, mowing down innocent pedestrians???
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