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@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Didn’t he have some sort of mental disability? Maybe that explains why he confessed. Alternatively, the police gained a confession from him under duress.
Or alternatively he did do it after all and a ”smart lawyer” got him off on a technicality.
I am reminded of a case I was involved in many years ago in Brentford where a man, who was a mentally retarded farm labourer, raped and then murdered a young girl. He was arrested after telling a ‘friend’ what he had done and under questioning by Police, he freely admitted the whole thing in great detail.
He even volunteered to show us where he had hidden the knife with which he stabbed her several times and mutilated her body. This was in Brentford in a secluded wooded part of a park and miles away from where he lived (in Berkshire).
He was taken to the place where he hid the knife after the attack (I was one of the escorting Officers) and sure enough there it was hidden deep in hedgerow, completely invisible unless you knew it was there, and a short distance from where her dead body was found.
We recovered it and forensically matched the blade to the victim’s wounds, we matched the blood on the knife to her blood type, and we found his fingerprints all over the handle clear as clear could be. Game set & match you might think.
In Court he pleaded not guilty and his lawyers put forward the defence that, as he was mentally retarded, Police should have arranged for an ”appropriate adult” (i.e. mental health professional) to have been with him when he was questioned and admitted everything. As this was not done, they applied to the Court to have all and any ”confession” evidence excluded from the trial – which included all the details of his crime that were revealed in his confession. This included taking us to where he had concealed the knife and all the forensic evidence associated with it.
In effect we were left with no hard evidence that he committed this crime and the Jury took the view that his admission to a friend before his arrest was simply a boast. They were refused the opportunity to hear any other evidence and so had no other choice but to aquit him.
He was therefore found Not Guilty and released.
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
@squeezy wrote:
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
I thought you said somewhere you didn’t/couldn’t drive? :?
Being obnoxious for the sake of it loses its impetus Kevin … Stick to things you actually know something about, rather than rely on worn out clich és :wink:
Note to Ed … Could you please arrange it so that I can use accents without ending up sounding like a total lunatic? I can do that on my own thank you very much… It doesn’t need emphasising! :wink:
…Did your letter e with the little apostrophe turn out as ‘elephant’ then??
I’ve done that a few times as well….annoying huh? :?
Very! :evil:
It’s all part of our drive to reduce the pervasive influence of the French language. When the French come up with their own word for ”weekend” then we in turn might allow their beastly and unnecessary accents over our decent British letters.
I see from the newspapers today that the Palestinians are at it yet again. Not being satisfied with a common enemy (Israel) they have to fight each other as well.
Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority (surely a contradiction in terms) and leader of Fatah and Ismail Hanniyeh leader of Hamas (the admitted terrorist organisation) cannot even now seem to agree on a joint position on Israel.
Fatah wants to enter into some sort of negotiations whereas Hamas refuses to accept the right of Israel to even exist. No chance of a compromise there then. The referendum proposed by Fatah will almost certainly be lost by Hamas, which opposes it, and this will no doubt lead to open civil war.
So in order to make their point of view clear to all, Hamas gunmen have attacked and murdered a number of gunmen from the Fatah dominated Preventative Security force who have retaliated and murdered a Hamas gunman. This week’s score is Hamas 12 Fatah 1.
Maybe the Israelis should supply both sides with enough bullets to kill each other and then the issue will solve itself.
Maenwhile Jaffa oranges enjoy world wide brand recognition and the Palestinians continue to live in their so-called peace camps or terrorist training centres.
Well not necessarily Mr B. I apologise to you for not being an ‘apologist’ for the Palestinian cause and also for perhaps sympathising with the Israeli side of things. You have your view and you’re entitled to it.
I am afraid that I cannot get over excited with the historical aspect of all this. It seems to me that for every fact or argument put forward on one side there seems to be a counter point put on behalf of the other side. Both sides are right and the other side is wrong anyway.
Why did you kill my people today…. because your lot killed my people yesterday…. yes but that was because your lot killed my people the day before and so on and so forth. Well why not just stop killing the other side right now…. well we won’t stop until they do….. yes but they won’t stop until you do…. yes but we won’t stop until………………… etc etc.
Well why not just let them have the land they want which they say is theirs anyway….. because it’s not theirs it’s ours…. but they got there first….. no they didn’t we were there in 200 BC…. no you wern’t, they were there in 500BC…. no they wern’t, we were there in ……etc etc.
So sorry if my posts appear somewhat frivolous Mr B but I lost interest many many years ago in the rights and wrongs of this stupid childish squabble. Neither side is going to give in or accept the other, so my view is to simply let them get on with it and fight each other to the death. Sooner or later one side will slaughter all of the other and matters will no doubt rest there.
I do have a sneaking regard for the Israelis. They don’t ponce about mouthing off about how hard they are. If you mess with them they take you out. This is a language that terrorist murderers seem to understand.
@Tory Girl wrote:
You could almost pass for a chav!!
Having studied them for a long time now and read their utter drivel, taking them off isn’t such a problem. The main trick is to avoid punctuation at all costs and and to ignore both grammar and correct spelling.
Then you only need to get hysterically upset at some imaginary slight or insult (the more trivial the better) and away you go. Instant ”chav”.
Maybe this will go some way towards answering your question Lamby:
In England and Wales, a life sentence is a prison term of indeterminate length. Formerly, the Home Secretary reserved the right to set the “tariff”, or minimum length of term, for prisoners sentenced to life imprisonment, but since the Criminal Justice Act 2003 only a judge may set the tariff. The Act specifies three broad categories of murder with three “starting point” sentences. A “Whole Life Tariff” (known in the US as “life without parole”) exists for multiple murders which involve sexual abuse of children or terrorism, as well as any murderer who had come out of prison and killed again. If such a sentence is handed down, then a prisoner is unlikely ever to be released from prison. A starting point of 30 years exists for people convicted of single murders involving sexual or sadistic conduct, killing using a firearm, during the course of a robbery or the killing of a Police Officer. For other murders the minimum starting point is a life sentence with a minimum of 15 years. The average sentence is about 15 years before the first parole hearing, although those convicted for heinous offences serve their sentences significantly longer – Ian Huntley was given a tariff of 40 years. Some receive “whole life tariffs” and die in prison, such as Myra Hindley and Harold Shipman; there are currently around 25 people serving whole life tariffs in the UK. Reggie Kray was serving a whole life tariff but was released on campassionate grounds in August 2000, as he was 67 years old, suffering from terminal cancer and had spent over 30 years behind bars. He died just five weeks after being paroled. Prisoners jailed for life are released on a life licence if the parole board authorises their release. The prisoner must satisfy the parole board that they are remorseful, understand the gravity of their crime and pose no future threat to the public.
@angel1 wrote:
boy im glad im not posting details of spliffy and my wedding, god knows wat PB would suggest
I can organise christenings as well angel. Has your new born baby been baptised / christened yet???
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
…Finally, the van carrying rockets was actually an ordinary car carrying 2 militants. 9 innocent by-standers were killed by the explosion. Imagine a helicopter gunship hitting a car on your high-street and you’ll get some impression of what the Palestinians have to put up with on a regular basis.
Oh how simply awful. Those nasty Israelis actually having the temerity to attack a car and not a van. That will never do now will it? They even managed to bag two ”militants” eh? (Militants = terrorist murderers). Well that’ll teach them to hump Quassam rockets around. If they had been less stupid and simply driven them straight to the firing point (on the beach???) instead of pissing about and showing off to their seedy mates they could have fired the rockets and killed a few more Jews.
I’ll bet those two ”militants” won’t be shagging 70 virgins tonight eh?
BTW just how stupid do these suicide bombers have to be. Do they really believe that they are going to be given 70 virgins absolutely gagging for it??? I mean really??? Haven’t they managed to work out yet that with all the suicide bombers going to that great bedroom in the sky over the last few years, the entire Middle East has run out of dead virgins for them to hump.
yeah gm babes i lubs ya too mwahh mwahh an magoo its deffo a life an death thing ‘cos if someone disses my mates then they gotta wotch out cos i am gettin all mad an fings wiv them an anyway he was dissed in the room an nobody ought neva to have to have that sed about them as he doesn’t have a bad bone in his body an he neva done nuffing to deserve that bein sed about him an just becos i neva saw it doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen like they say it did wen they saw it themselves ‘cos they know he veva done nuffink and he don’t have any bones in his body not even bad ones….. end of yeah an woteva innit
well I agree wiv wot the other two jus said and also I want to say that I agrees that nobody has a bad bone in there body an I think its disgusted that other people can get away with this stuff even though I didn’t see it but if i did I would have agreed wiv them 100 percent and the amount of abuse that they took when they was blameless and never done nothing to deserve it becose they don’t have a bad bone in there body and I know they was well gutted at the things that were said about them even though I never saw nothing ‘cos i wasn’t there to see it but others were and I think that they should do somefink about it.
