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    @Wordsworth50 wrote:

    @minim wrote:

    ………And there are others who know how to use the system, obtain far more than they are entitled and make it ever harder for the truly deserving.

    Well said mimim, but the truth is that it’s not those who fiddle the system who design it. They will exploit loopholes of any kind and there will always be loopholes.

    In a society that leave reckless bankers in charge of the economy and forgive “friendly fire” and “collateral damage” the response to a (usually overstated) number of cheats does less to prevent cheating than to victimise the most needy (anyone care to guess whether the retesting of every disability claimant is going to save anything like what it will cost?)

    Gesture politics rules! But not in a good way.

    All the time I see evidence that people come to this country to abuse our benefit system and to make use of the NHS. Did you know that people come from the middle east and egypt just to have transplants here? Now there has to be something wrong when people who don’t live in this country and can hardly speak the language can come here and be offered expensive life saving treatment and not have to pay a thing, including not having had to pay national insurance contributions for a finite period of time. They get in through the back door using the loopholes you mention. And although I don’t begrudge someone life saving operations, I do wonder how on earth they can qualify for NHS treatment.

    And…..making use of the system is all well and good for those that have the mental agility and knowledge to do so, but it does mean that the systems are stretched too tightly and those that are less able to manipulate the systems are abandoned.

    *gets off soap box*

    #457688

    There are far too many people who cannot negotiate the reams of paperwork and endless interviews and proofs that are required to obtain the bare minimum for existence in our careless society. If they are lucky enough to have family members or friends to help them, they can make headway, but many are literally left out in the cold.

    They drop through ever widening holes in the net that is supposed to protect those most vulnerable. And it isn’t just the homeless, elderly people, people with learning difficulties, people with borderline psychiatric problems. Care in a community…..that doesn’t.

    And there are others who know how to use the system, obtain far more than they are entitled and make it ever harder for the truly deserving.

    #455526

    forget my comment about psychobabble on another thread.. this takes the biscuit.

    #456969

    @nemesis wrote:

    Ha, want some competition?

    Just as an aside… it really is a self indulgent piece, and beleive me it`s my favourite poem at the moment lol

    I would say that all poetry is self indulgent, for who do we write initially, but ourselves? Honing a poem can take the poetry out of a piece of work written from the heart. A true craftsperson can occasionally find the balance between tweaking and twirling and keeping the message true.

    Now that is as good a piece of pretentious psychobabble as you are every likely to find on this ‘ere message board. :)

    Purlizter winning rubes purlease write more purrfection :)

    #455590

    hmmm i am wondering why you would work there if you hate it so much, apart from the money, obviously.

    But then there are plenty of people in this country who say to moaning foreign workers, if you don’t like it, go home! I guess people are the same the whole world over :)

    #455371

    will you mince a little for me then? :wink:

    #455369

    are people getting ready to flounce?

    #455603

    :D now that made me smile pikey

    #455517

    I thunk.. and I thunk and

    love it rubes

    #454878

    But that is not in the spirit of free speech! That is censorship, and I hate being censored!

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