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As for the dog chasing its tail.. have you never seen a dog catch its tail?
They always look so pleasantly surprised.
:( that is so sad
there must be many many stories of people who survived terrible backgrounds to become successful adults. I did put up a couple of examples, but to be honest, we must all know of examples of families where one child ends up on the wrong side of the law, and families where terrible things happen but they still manage to come through it unscathed.
Its all to do with personality and character … and we are born with one and develop the other.
OK, so maybe to use the term “evil” is the wrong expression. But I do believe that some people are born without the ability to feel empathy or compassion, and are never able to develop those things. Some of those can be described as psychopathic personalities. Pikey you are obvioulsy a proponent of nurture, rather than nature. I think it is usually a mixture of the two things…a nature that is off kilter and a nurture that makes things worse and if you add societies inability to help either those children who offend or those that are victims, you get the kind of things we have been discussing.
Maybe if the two Edlington boys had been born into strong, kind and caring families, they would have avoided becoming who they are now. The same could be true of the two who killed Jamie Bulger. But, you cannot blame the parents and home lives of all children who grow up to be paedophiles, rapists and murderers. Or can you?
There are people who are just born evil and some who are mentally disturbed.. there is a fine line between being considered mentally ill and just plain evil, but that is for the psychiatrists to determine.
I have to say at this point that the psychiatrists and psychologists deciding on what should happen to people like this are often considered barking by the rest of the medical profession. Or to put it another way, you have to be mad to do the job.
It strikes me that our infrastructure is in melt down. Too many people who need putting into care as children, too many people not being monitored in “care in the community” (which is a laughable name for it) and the social services failing every step of the way.
Maybe if our governments over the last 50 years had spent more time and effort sorting out our own problems instead of putting their noses into every begger elses… we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now!
Life is full of risks……..it takes courage to live in this world. I cannot understand why some people go to such great lengths to try and hurt others. I suppose it is because in the main they are not happy themselves.
I would rather go through life taking risks and reaching for experiences, than to close myself off from the world and wrap myself in cotton wool.
There are limits though, and some people take unnecessary risks and end up regretting it. I guess as in all things its about balance.
I must be male! *checks*
Adventures
it uses more muscles to frown……lazy b@stard :lol:
*takes Gazlan’s wooden spoon away*
naughty naughty :lol:
@gazlan wrote:
I think it is a matter of returning to old fashioned values. I suspect that will be seen as a retrograde step by a lot of people though.
Pre democracy ? werent they all immoral back then…?
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by the people..for the people
what is so wrong with people governing themselves?
And… it was the ancient greeks that first thought through democracy having assemblies of people to vote on things. The romans then added to democratic process, and in the UK, democracy has always been a large part of our lives.
By a return to old fashioned values, I was referring to respect for others, decency and kindness and people who grow up with the inbuilt knowledge of what is right and what is just plain wrong.
And… this has been a democratic country for centuries. Anyone coming to live in this country knows that…… if they don’t like it there are plenty of other countries in the world that don’t have democracy. Why don’t they moved there instead?
Or to put it more bluntly…..if you don’t like it.. you can always leave :D :D :wink:
