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@(f)politics? wrote:

it was in response to your lengthy reply regarding the skin colour of british, i chose white christian straight because if i was of a different skin colour and debating this you would never had made the post u made. Someone with different skin colour to white dont get the same gagging, as white people do, because of the fear…

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@(f)politics? wrote:

it was in response to your lengthy reply regarding the skin colour of british, i chose white christian straight because if i was of a different skin colour and debating this you would never had made the post u made. Someone with different skin colour to white dont get the same gagging, as white people do, because of the fear…

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@(f)politics? wrote:

if it isn’t to do with the religious rites, but a personal vow, then surely that can be done in a civil ceremony, as is now their right ? They can make a personal vow and legalise things so they have the same rights as a married couple.

Scep was saying the religious rights and ceremony, in a Church, are impt to gay christians.

@tinks wrote:

…….but this doesn’t have a lot to do with cliques and cliches :-s

I tinks this and the gay marriage thread got inadvertently “merged.” I suppose the C of E could be seen as a clique.

@tinks wrote:

Does it bother you if someone you seem to have got on well with online suddenly goes the other way? Do you try to sort it or just accept what’s happened as after all they may just be ‘a name and words on the screen’?…….How important is this to you?

Depends how well you know them or think you know them. I’d try and find out why,…[Read more]

@(f)politics? wrote:

@panda12 wrote:

Poli, you said the “straight white Christians of this country are gradually being pushed into extinction.”

Do you have facts to back that up?

Asians have been present in this country since the 17th century with records showing black people having been here since as early as the 12th century.

It’s rather…

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@tinks wrote:

@anc wrote:

Yup! Nobby Holder!!! Used to be a fan :oops:

the guy has been collecting the royalties from ‘merry christmas everybody’ since 1973 …….he should be minted

He went nuts, though instead. Nice but expensive. :D

@Sgt Pepper wrote:

Isn’t Noddy that geezer from Slade? :roll:

Holder on, I’ll just check. I think you might be right. :D

Your son maybe right, lol.

Poli, you said the “straight white Christians of this country are gradually being pushed into extinction.”

Do you have facts to back that up?

Asians have been present in this country since the 17th century with records showing black people having been here since as early as the 12th century.

It’s rather ignorant of people to think this country…[Read more]

@Mrs_Teapot wrote:

I wondered who Noddy was…. does that mean minim has Big Ears :D … sorry minim… couldnt resist….. I like your car though Noddy :D

That car has no indicators. :shock:

@sceptical guy wrote:

gay people have won equality, and my guess is that civil marriage will soon be legal.

It’s a question of religion, which is still very important for many people, in this country and the world.The question is caused by the Church of England’s decision to oppose gay marriage on relgious grounds, and as the Church of England is…

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@(f)politics? wrote:

i’ll say again …
When in Rome.. do as the romans do… only in Britain could it be expected to be any different.

And that’s what makes this country great. That’s why so many ppl want to live here. They love our freedoms and progressive nature.

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Perhaps poli, it’s simple. Gay ppl who are religious want the right to marry in Church because it is important to them to be joined in matrimony in the eyes of God. You say it makes no difference? To you maybe but to them it is important and it does make a difference in the same way it’s important for someone to be baptised or Confirmed.

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And what if those core and fundamental values need changing?

Didn’t the Church in this country give its blessing to burning ppl at the stake?

Wasn’t it acceptable to burn witches or drown them?

You say things shouldn’t change but evolve. Surely evolving is changing? :shock:

@Terry wrote:

Poland got knocked out of the tournament tonight which means their fans will be heading back home to England.

Oh good. Means our economy will pick up. :D

Agreed, Words. Time waits for no one. We either move with the times or we stagnate and die.

The land in this country was once ploughed by man and horse. It soon became apparent we had to move to mechanisation else we would fail to be agriculturally competitive. Some cultures and traditions may stand the test of time but others won’t esp if a…[Read more]

I’m not sure if the Church is legally obliged to marry divorcees or whether it is at their discretion. I know they banned it.

Whatever happens, there is going to be a battle between Church and State.

I don’t understand the Church. It has all these mantras such as “do unto others as you would have done unto you” but only when it suits it…[Read more]

I never liked Noddy. He was too quick to temper, seemed spoilt and as for that silly hat and shoes. :D

@jen_jen wrote:

The church argument clouds the issue…it really has nothing to do with the church or religion.

Marriage is not controlled by the Church, it is controlled by legislation and a change to the legislation would not force religious groups to conduct same-sex marriages if they opposed it. Granting gay people the right to get married…

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