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1962: 130 die in Paris air crash
A chartered Air France Boeing 707 headed for Atlanta, Georgia, has crashed on take-off at Orly Airport in Paris, killing 130 people on board.
It is the worst ever recorded air disaster involving one aircraft.Miraculously, two of the 10 crew survived. The air stewardesses, who had been sitting at the rear of the plane, escaped with minor injuries.
Three hours after the disaster another steward was found alive in the wreckage but he died later in hospital.
the song of many
one or two probably have good use for
contemplating
They can’t stop him till they know what they’re looking for and there were 30 crime scenes. This all happened in a 3 hr period i understand which isn’t very long to respond to and stop what appears to be a moving shooter aiming at mainly random targets. If you’ve had a report of shootings you’re not likely to be on the look out for windscreenless vehicles unless you have specific reports, their aim will have been to get to the scene, it may have been ongoing who knew. The shooter is dead and people need someone to take their anger out on perhaps, but i don’t think there’s much more the police could have done given the nature and speed of what happened.
@pikey wrote:
Why should Mr Gazlan be expected to do anything, Jen? There are dozens of threads on this site where people express their outrage about all sorts of subjects – paedophiles, shootings, Lady Gaga (!?), olympic mascots – no one is expected to be doing anything concrete to justify their outrage. Why would we hold Mr Gazlan to different standards?
There can be nothing but outrage for paedophiles and shooting of innocent people, it needs no justification at all. The defence of terrorisism and the anti semetic veiled holocaust denial quotes need more than justification they need moderating.
@pikey wrote:
Now, with regard to the news reports that show life in Gaza is all strawberries and cream, I would treat them all with caution. The Foreign Office – no friend of Hamas, Hezbollah or Islamism in general – has said the area is experiencing an ‘ongoing urgent humanitarian situation’*. Whatever we think of terrorism or the rights and wrongs of the Israeli/Palestinian situation, that means innocents who are just trying to get on with their lives are suffering. That can’t be right.
Peaches and cream it’s not, starving to death it’s also not, though i agree with making innocents suffer is totally wrong.
@pikey wrote:
I’ve long argued that the way forward for the Palestinians is through non-violent resistance. In that way they can force the Israelis to play the bad guys until their position becomes untenable. The international backlash to the recent heavy handed action by the Israelis is a good example of how this works. In the final analysis, what they have done is sent commandos to stop a ship sailing in international waters and carrying only peaceful supplies and ended up killing people to achieve their aims. Good work, fellas. I pray that the Palestinians see that this sort of incident advances their cause more than a hundred rockets launched blindly into Israel might do.
Too late they’ve already launched one or two, and as long as they continue to do that then most of the rest of the world have excuse not to react with outright condemnation
@pikey wrote:
There’s more to come. How does Israel plan to deal with the Irish ship the MV Rachel Corrie, which is on its way with aid to the Gaza Strip? Mairead Corrigan Maguire, a Nobel peace prizewinner, is onboard. Will Israel argue that the Eire government, which has given this ship its backing, is a supporter of Al-Qaida and send commandos again?
It’ll deal with it the same way as it dealt with the last lot I would imagine, give it the choice of docking in a port of their (Israeli) choice or be boarded
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
When I was young, the permissive society was about men growing their hair in a way that shocked their grandparents and middle-class girls behaving in a way that was calculated to shock Mummy and Daddy.
Now the permissive society is more about recreational violence, bullying, binge drinking etc.
I just think it’s reported more thats all, we had mods and rockers, skinheads, Hell’s Angels etc, there was certainly far more soccer violence late 60’s early seventies, though with the advent of mobile phones maybe not as “organised”.
Because they had no idea where he was going, couldn’t have the man had snapped and wasn’t at all rational or organised, just random stopping and shooting without any reason or motive. It would have been blind luck to have spotted him or stopped him before he did what he did.
None of that says i agree with the blockade, but if you play with fire you’ll get burned. Apparently both Egypt and Israel said they would ship the supplies into the Gaza Strip (as they already had done once) had the ships diverted to another port. The consequences were obvious and let’s face it damn good publicity for the cause. Will all that affect Israel ? I very much doubt it.
Stephanie Gutmann is a journalist based in New York. She has written for dozens of publications including Playboy and the Wall Street Journal. She is the author of two books: The Kinder, Gentler Military: How Political Correctness Affects Our Ability to Win Wars, and The Other War: Israelis, Palestinians and the Struggle for Media Supremacy.
One piece of data was a documentary I saw a few months ago, shot by a pro-Hamas activist and screened during Columbia University’s Apartheid Week festivities. Peculiarly, though the travelogue (filmed very recently) was supposed to arouse Nuremberg rally-like rage about occupation and so on, the activist/producer had allowed abundant footage of street markets brimming with produce and shops full of canned goods, cigarettes, and sweets. At one point the activist/film producer asked a Gazan whether he had enough food. He answered with something to the effect of “We have food, but we object to the closures on political grounds.” The activist’s cameras then took us over to the Gaza/Egypt border where, under full view of apathetic uniformed authorities, huge, complicated tunnels were being built, repaired, and used to bring in more goods.
Data point two was a Sky TV series about the Middle East narrated by Ross Kemp, which I recently watched on YouTube showing similar market scenes. At one point Kemp asks a Gazan the starvation question and he replies, “Well, the Israelis give us nappies, yoghurt and fruit.”
Three is the fact that every single documentary or TV news clip I have seen of Gaza shows healthy looking children frisking in the streets and robust young men busy doing calorically expensive things like loading rocket launchers. Severely under-nourished people are usually quite apathetic.
Four, (and I realize, this is by definition suspect to many Blogs commenters) there’s also the Israeli government’s claim that they allow in truckloads of aid nearly every day. That is, when Hamas isn’t hijacking the aid convoys or shooting up the Eretz Crossing as they are alleged to have done in 2007-2008.
The most recent large scale delivery of aid was the 10,000 tonnes of goods off-loaded from the “Freedom Flotilla” ships in the Ashdod port and taken by ground, by Israel, to Gaza. The Israelis claim this was accomplished by the second of June, shortly after the hostilities at sea. Of course this is what was supposed to have happened anyway if the activists had cooperated with the Israeli government in the first place, and sooner, with the creation of fewer new “martyrs”.
So I will leave you with that. I hope it’s food for thought.