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Fine tune. I’ve always been very fond of the version by The Beat. In fact, that reminds me…
Guess there’s no use in hangin’ ’round
Guess I’ll get dressed and do the town
I’ll find some crowded avenue
Though it will be empty without youCan’t get used to losin’ you no matter what I try to do
Gonna live my whole life thorough-loving youCalled up some girl I used to know
After I heard her say “Hello”
Couldn’t think of anything to say
Since you’re gone it happens every dayCan’t get used to losin’ you no matter what I try to do
Gonna live my whole life thorough-loving youI’ll find somebody, wait and see
Who am I kiddin’, only me
‘Cause no one else could take your place
Guess that I am just a hopeless caseCan’t get used to losin’ you no matter what I try to do
Gonna live my whole life thorough-loving youI can’t get used to losin’ you no matter what I try to do
Gonna live my whole life thorough – loving youThe Beat (via Andy Williams) ~ Can’t Get Used to Losing You
:-s Well don’t fucking reply to the topic then, man. I don’t follow your posts around saying, oh no, not another smarmy post, do I? This is Current Affairs & Serious Posts. The thread isn’t even directly about politicians themselves. You go and chat about whatever you want, but don’t try and tell me what I should or shouldn’t be discussing. There are a squillion threads on these boards I have absolutely no interest in whatsoever. Do I need to go and grumble on each of them? Of course not. If you’re not interested, don’t comment. Elementary.
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@pete wrote:
Jeez more politics :?
Yeah. That’d be Serious Posts, Pete.
@Lead wrote:
you had me right up to fundamentaly christian.
I didn’t mean fundamentally as in very bible bashing, Sharpie, rather based on a largely Christian tradition.
Perhaps I need to clarify more. Liberal democracy has evolved over a long period, with much tribulation and bloodshed, in now largely secular, previously Christian nations. Is it only really suited to such nations? Are we wasting our time trying to establish it and get it to flourish in an Islamic state like Afghanistan or Iraq? Do they need the same amount of time, upheaval and slaughter as we did to sort it out for themselves or can it be imposed?
That’s missing the point, Tomster. For instance, we can have an authoritarian liberal democracy where crime and opposing liberalism are ruthlessly quashed.
The concepts of liberty and equality are in permanent tension in a modern Western state. The state cannot allow too much liberty without repressing equality and vice versa. America, for example, would tend to favour individual liberty, the right to the pursuit of happiness for example, while European states, on the whole, would tend to promote equality through things like national health services etc. But it’s just matters of degree.
What I’m asking is if there needs to be a Christian background to a society in order for such systems to flourish.
Show up at his house naked and carrying beer. He’ll warm to you.
:D I’ve voted for myself on the other polls as well.
They can’t do away with their send them all home policies because it is this mind-set that is at their core. All the rest is just populist window dressing designed to impress the politically naive. For example, the build up British Industry bit. What on Earth do they think everyone else is trying to do? And, as the fifth largest economy in the world with a population of just sixty-five or seventy million people, most analysis would point to the fact that we’re not doing too badly. No substance about how this is to be achieved is mentioned, just a vague aspiration combined with the implication that the country is on the economic ropes. Balderdash.
False assumptions are also routinely dished out with either no, or purely anecdotal, evidence issued in support. For example, multiculturalism isn’t working. Who says? Nobody is denying that there are issues and problems to be addressed but, generally speaking, multiculturalism in Britain has been a fantastic success – enriching and deepening our culture in the same way that has been going on for millennia. Where are Powell’s rivers of blood? Not running down my high street, that’s for sure.
It’s all about ignorance, hate and fear. And let’s get the history straight as well, while we’re here. While many people died and were oppressed under both Fascism and Communism, and incidentally still are under liberal democracy, there is a difference. Fascism murdered and oppressed through ideology. It was the general idea. The raison d’etre. Communism and liberal democracy have no such ideology at their roots. Communism holds that all are created equal, liberal democracy is predicated on the idea that all should be afforded the maximum amount of freedom, the pursuit of happiness. Evil done in their name is a perversion, not a function of the systems themselves, as it is with fascism.
The basic problem with the East End is it’s full of Cockernees. I mean, you’re talking about a bunch of criminal masterminds that thought they could conceal their nefarious activities by simply substituting incriminating words with ones that sounded just like them. :lol:
Toot toot!
