hi all ok heres what i did i sent for a windows boot disc i put it in and it did nothing so i looked for anoption on my opening page there were a number of options one of witch was start computer in safe mode i clicked on this and just left the laptop too do what it wanted and low and behold the thing booted up so when it did i delelted the spy ware i had downloaded witch had caused the problem then i rebooted it and its working fine.everything is as it should be im a complete novice with lappys so it was a complete shot in the dark any way like i say its ok now ta for all the interest and info rob 46