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23 April, 2006 at 10:20 pm #210546
Interesting stuff
They use extreme instances (ie the “priest rape boys” section) and use it to stereotype all- what one “fag” does mean all “fags” do. Very similar to BNP tactics really.
Of course she’s absolutely barking mad
22 April, 2006 at 10:35 pm #210420HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE SEXIEST WOMAN IN JC
:wink:Remember you’re never far from a friend on JC and as long as I’ve got a face, you’ve always got somewhere to sit
Have a good one babe
:D
xxx22 April, 2006 at 1:55 pm #209819But they wouldnt make a new series with the same tone as they did in the 70’s – it was a different era, an era in some ways more innocent and in some ways more ignorant –
22 April, 2006 at 9:42 am #210438@giggles wrote:
we had a show that came to my place of work the other day ……it was ace with loads of different types … for the … adults :oops: to hold…..
I have always had a fear …. but held a massive hairy one, and I wasn’t scared at all :shock: . I feel very proud of myself for doing this
but I’m curious to know if anyone beat their ‘s …. good.
Selective editing is great :lol: :lol:
22 April, 2006 at 9:27 am #209818No offence hun, I too find it funny when I look back at it- just like Benny Hill, On the Buses and It Ain’t Half Hot mum- they’re still have the ability to be funny in places but I couldn’t imagine them coming back now cos society has moved on.
In a way they remind me of the classic adverts of the 50’s, when you had the woman was seen as the cook, cleaner and who “did” for her husband, she needed the latest twin tub or the latest bottle of Daz- those adverts make me laugh so much but you would never ever want such a condescending type of advert around today- women have managed to move on from the subservient , junior and unequal role of only 50 years ago to being an equal part of todays society- well, almost equal :wink: :lol:
22 April, 2006 at 8:25 am #209816@cas wrote:
Someone else mentioned a little while a go, a programme that used to be on TV several years ago now, I can’t remember who it was, it was called ”Love Thy Neighbour” it was hilariously funny. The jokes were on both sides, black and white, no one took offence, it was all in good fun, on both!! sides.
It wouldn’t be tolerated now, which is a great shame
You can’t know many non white people then Cas- this was a show for a time- it was funny in the 70’s but it says more about our society today that people consider it a shame it’s not around now-
21 April, 2006 at 9:03 pm #209577:oops:
Always a pleasure, never a chore Mrs C
21 April, 2006 at 9:00 pm #209812I would say my post was pretty conclusive and one sided but feel free to disagree-
Winter festivities instead of Xmas, not waving the flag etc is all boll/ox- but it is s/od all to do with minorities- it is to do with mainly white bureaucrats who THINK these things will upset a minority group within our country without actually asking them.
30 years ago using the words “nignog”, “sambo” and “jungle bunny” were considered “funny”, “inoffensive” and “just a laugh”- that was the opinion of the age. If you find you can’t say anything without being labelled a racist or homophobic, perhaps you should look at what you’re saying (conclusive enough for you!)- assimilation is a two way street- if you expect people to adapt to “our way of life”- try and meet them half way, and learn theirs too- we’ve just had a Polish shop open up not far from me, first in the whole city….and guess what, my world didnt end because of it.
Mosques harbouring Britain hating terrorists, Catholic churches harbouring Britain hating terrorists! No difference- different decade, different church, same hatred.
20 April, 2006 at 9:37 pm #209573@emmalush wrote:
@Mrs Clean wrote:
Emma, I still don’t agree with your view of being drawn to our own type’s of people, I simply do not have experience of that at all. Colour only has a big influence if you let it, if you just live your life and let other people live their’s I don’t see how much of an influence it can make, unless you feel you have been discriminated against purely for that reason. Hating football doesn’t make people bad, but hating people with a different skin colour, that is bad. So I take it you will be voting for the BNP then ?
Who are you more drawn to, family or strangers? If you were given the chance to live with normal white people or normal black people, who would you choose? The choice is in everyday society, your more likely to feel comfortable to people of your own colour, sexual preference and nationality, thats how humans behave.
Thats your trouble Ema, you never see beyond black and white- and you have absolutely no concept or understanding that the vast majority of people see “human being” rather than “black family” or “white family”- only in your mind is it a problem- to most people it isn’t even a consideration
@emmalush wrote:
Prefering people of any one colour above another, isnt a bad thing, not liking all football teams doesnt mean your bad.
In our liberal thinking society, libertarians make us feel guilty for thinking like me. Thats wrong, they should accept people for who they are, and not dictate how we should feel.
Finally we are getting somewhere- you’re absolutely right- preferring one colour above another is normal and isn’t a problem- preferring one sex to another is normal and isn’t a problem- what is a problem, is preferring one thing and then using every opportunity to undermine, verbally abuse, and attack the other colour- thats what is so wrong- I’m heterosexual, I prefer women to men. Thats fine- however if I were to suggest on this site that homosexuality is the root of all evil, and they should be locked up until they learn the error their ways, I would be seen as barking- same for colour or creed too
@emmalush wrote:
I posted a thread on the gossip forum about individualism. I wanted people to express their individualism, and not what our fascist leaders force them to think and behave.
If it is wrong to vote bnp, why are they a legal organisation. What im saying is, dont just believe what your political and media masters TELL YOU, go find out for yourself what their about, and after wards, ask yourself, is it any worse that the old gang parties, who have murdered thousands of innocent people in iraq, who waste £1.2 MILLION of OUR money EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY on the european union.
You continually assume users of JC aren’t learned, well read, educated or entitled to their opinion. You assume we are “led” by the media. Just maybe, just maybe, we have actually made up our own minds! You have the right to vote for whoever you want, I believe the BNP are the opposite of so much that I belive in, but you vote for who you like, but don’t be niave enough to expect people on here to go along with it- it’s a serious discussion forum
@emmalush wrote:
£1.2M an hour, or more police, teachers, nurses, doctors = less crime, better NHS, doctor surgeries, better education = better for you and your kids and the next generation who will look after you, rather than the sesspit care homes where old folk live now, people who fought with their bare hands to give us the chance to live like we do, and do we thank them, do we heck, we forget them. :(
We could get into a deep economic debate about the EU- some of which I totally agree is ill spent money- however the idea that our trade deficit would not dive into a big red hole if we withdrew from the EU and all (and more) of our current EU investment would go on holding our economy afloat etc but here is not the place for an EU ecomomic debate
@emmalush wrote:
I want a better society, not this sesspit ideology forced on us by people who dont care, yes i will vote bnp if it means i will die a happy person.
I don’t know which cesspit ideology you refer to, we don’t have a cesspit ideology (not in any manifesto Ive read)
20 April, 2006 at 9:18 pm #209809@drivel wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly with Tadpoles point – and unfortunately a few of the points that Emma made make sense too .
There was a program on tv the other night about policing in London – they showed gangs of organised shoplifters (Kosovians – I think ) – all female – found about 18 of them living inthe same house Also a pickpocket gang – targetting mainly women at bus stops (Algerians – the pickpockets not the women ) When arrested they claimed they couldn’t speak English !!!!
I’m against the PC brigade – as far as jobs etc go they should go to the best candidate (s) – there shouldn’t be any quotas imposed – i.e. saying that a certain % must be Muslim or black or yellow or whatever .
We have gone too far in my view of accepting other peoples cultures as the norm , If you want to live in this country – then learn the language and assimilate to our way of life – if not bugger off back to wherever
Drivel, Tad, Becky- you need to make your mind up what you think and mean.
I am liberal and also against MASS immigration of any creed or culture into this country as it is now. This means we already have a wonderful mix of cultures, values, colours and beliefs however I belive we are also close to the full up sign. We are not a white country, deal with it, we are Great Britain and I am happy to sit at a table with anyone of any colour, creed or sex who calls themselves British.
Interestingly over 75% of British Muslims (if you must pigeonhole people) also belive that there should not be immigration on the scale it has been over the past 5 years-
As for accepting other cultures, go read a history book, we are the original mongrel nation, a hybrid mix of everyone and everything, we have always absorbed other cultures into ours and created a new brighter, stronger culture for it.
AND, as being british, they have a right to an opinion, a view, an aim to make OUR society better. So if my local mosque wants to complain about pornography in WHS because it offends them- THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT- THEY’RE BRITISH. They have as much right to do that as anyone else does- they ain’t white british, black british, muslim british, etc etc – they’re just british, end of.
And yes Drivel, we have a huge Eastern European crime problem at the moment (which ALL Londoners especially) are concerned about- see ALL Londonders, black, white, muslim, jew, chinese, catholic, etc etc- caused by opening up the borders a couple of years ago. But as I said, understand ALL Britons are concerned about crime, education, health, welfare, taxes, the environment etc not just white Britons.
Interestingly most of the Mediterranean during the summer months has a huge crime problem caused by BRITISH (mostly white) tourists who think a good holiday is getting p/issed, vomiting and sh/itting in the street,abusing the local population, fighting anything that moves AND they don’t speak a word of Spanish- what makes you think it’s only “foreigners” who act like f/uckwits when abroad- we do a good enough job ourselves- one of the greatest shames on our nation in my view-
Jobs should always go to the best candidate, no matter what- however the only reason we have FEMALE representation in parliament to the extent we have, is because of quotas- TADpole, you really belive men are capable of representing the views of every woman in the country? Quotas were introduced to get women into parliament- if it works for sex, why wouldn’t it work for colour.
Our “culture” is made up of it’s component parts- always has been- if you mean you don’t like our “white” culture being at risk- I certainly don’t feel anything is at risk- I’m male, white, thirty something, fly the Flag, follow England, play football and cricket in the street, take the kids to the park, have a chinese on a saturday night, roast on Sunday, – what is it that we’re losing- maybe it’s a perception rather than reality cos where I see it, we haven’t lost any of our culture, just gained and grown a wider, diverse culture.
Nuff now
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