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@waspish wrote:
thethe government have said thwy are to fund the universities to teach muslim mullahs and muslimteachers to be more understanding of the british way of life… wtf…
o in other words were going to bring hundreds of muslim clerics over here and give them places in our universities paid for by the british tax payer. to recruit and brainwash even more peoplke than they have access to already……………………………………..
thats not gay its fekkin scary…. what thinks you emmalush ??? or am i being hysterical again..Yes
@waspish wrote:
thethe government have said thwy are to fund the universities to teach muslim mullahs and muslimteachers to be more understanding of the british way of life… wtf…
o in other words were going to bring hundreds of muslim clerics over here and give them places in our universities paid for by the british tax payer. to recruit and brainwash even more peoplke than they have access to already……………………………………..
thats not gay its fekkin scary…. what thinks you emmalush ??? or am i being hysterical again..Yes
I discovered yesterday that the Briton kinapped (the computer expert) was my IT engineer from 2 1/2 years ago.
Funny old world- he was a real nice chap too.
Cynical would say he was lining his pockets
Knowing the man and the other places throughout the world he has worked in (often for peanuts) just to improve the well being of poor nations, I KNOW his aim out there was to better the lives of the ordinary people of a totally f/ecked up country
Of course, everyone believes they know better when actually they know feck all.
Wasp- the reason you never hear of the thousands of workers, many voluntary, who go abroad to work in industry, IT, health and education is because is isn’t “news” that people are interested in and the people that do it dont do it for the publicity or the money, they do it because they believe they can make a difference
@ubermik wrote:
Well the first point is yes I have, from age 9 till age 16, then again from age 18 right through to age 25 and I still now live in a staunchly council orientated area albeit not what could be called an “estate”
But once again you miraculously managed to read what was clearly written but chose to totally miss any point being made and read it how you wanted it to have been written
I DIDNT say predominatly white council estates CANT be sink estates, I didnt even say they cant be Hot Chocolate holes, what I DID say is that they arent called and arent deemed to be “ghettos”, that privelidge is reserved for the poor ickle downtrodden discriminated against immigrants and ethnics, who coincidentally are “discriminated” against by being paid the exact same amount of money as a white person, even tho that amount makes an ethnic “poor” and living ona ghetto according to lefties and the press, whilst a whitey living on the same money on an equally disgusting estate is just a dole bludger
Thats the point I WAS making, hence saying it WASNT to do with skin colour which you miraculously chose to skip past during your selective interpretation (yet again)
But where the term ghetto DOES have meaning its a byproduct of the residents and not the housing or the income level, its how they choose to live and in many cases WHERE they choose to live as they will choose to live by their own kind rather than in a mixed enviroment
Err, perhaps you should re read your post as you clearly write anything down without reading it
@ubermik wrote:
And yet we have oodles of whities living in council housing on the exact same money but WITHOUT it being called or resembling a “ghetto”
Now forgive me if Im wrong, but you are quite clearly here stating that “whities” council estates dont “resemble” a ghetto whereas quite clearly they do, even if they are not given that particular name- we both know that to be a fact
And “deemed to be” is quite different in emphasis and interpretation to “resembles”
@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
Not that anyone is the slightest bit interested in my eating habits but thanks for asking Emma
Ok, lets broaden the interest, i sense nervousness, a quivering slimish man.
Is the chinesse about 30 yards away? Do you own a light blue jumper? Are you around 5″10 – 6″0?
If this description is very close to true, dont answer here, PM me to stop.
Slavery slayer, i had a vision, a vision of you, around 6 foot, carrying a chinesse take-away, wearing a light blue jumper, and your black african wife coming home, or was it before?, anyway, you lived in a terrace house, about 20 feet from a working mans club, in the heart of England. You forgot to say sorry for something, i cant quite workout why, were you supposed to tidy the house that day, the day of the FA cup final, before your black african wife got home?
Im scarred for you, are you frieghtened by a neighbour? Something to do with your garden, or their garden, a brick wall. Enlighten me.
Oh gosh, what have i wrote, should i delete it, its nonsense for sure, what should i do…
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Errrrr, you got me there Emma, fair n square- I bin away visiting relatives in Wonga Wonga this week :wink: (actually she’s West Indian, not African but Im sure they all look the same to you)
Actually Em, I am 6″ (and 8 inches in my stockinged feet) but dont have a blue jumper, jus me Metallica tshirt, me LCFC/DCFC shirts (n matching shorts n socks), or a very nice pink number with stripes down the side, normally with blue jeans which are tight ( :D ), n size 12 boots. The chinese is 12 miles away n I hav to get in my gas guzzling people carrier (all the kids I have y’see) n get me take away so that wasnt too close either.
You forget I live in the middle of nowhere, in a very nice 4 bedroomed detached house with conservatory n large garden n jus a hedge- all I got is me n the acres of fields n a few neighbours.
N as for tidying the house, wtf do you think I have a wife for? Ornamentation?
You got my height right Em but I wouldnt give up the day job if you’re thinking of branching into soothsaying, seeing into the future, or dream analysis :lol: :lol:
@ubermik wrote:
And yet we have oodles of whities living in council housing on the exact same money but WITHOUT it being called or resembling a “ghetto”, why do you think that is if housing and money is frequently cited as the cause?
Perhaps the problem isnt the housing, isnt the fact they are poor, isnt even their skin colour as many of the same colour DONT live in such an animalistic way
Perhaps its just the people themselves living the only way they are capable of living, like animals rather than civilised human beings but then trying to blame everyone but themselves for it afterwards
Uber- hav you ever lived on a council estate? I lived on one for 3 years (though not any more) which was 99% white and the attitude, manner, lack of respect for authority, the belief the world owed them a living (a belief that was particularly endemic in the younger generations), the lack of respect for property and other people was and is no different no matter what the colour
Couldnt agree more that it is a lack of decency and morals which manifests itself in this way, but it is the same no matter what the colour of someones skin.
Awww, Ive so much missed JC whilst on my hols but now I’m bac :D
DoA- I couldnt tell from your opening post whether the issue is non British “asylum seekers” and “economic migrants” getting a council house or whether you object to British citizens who arent the same colour as you getting a council house?
Jus wondered
@ubermik wrote:
Having a view about something, even a criticism DOESNT equate to total avoidence thereafter lol, how idiotic
So you see a news story you dont like never watch the news again? You see one episode of a show thats crap never watch another one?
Your footie team looks like they were bending over for the opposition the night before? Never watch them again?
Hell, I bet yer partners REALLY dread having dinner on the table 18 seconds late dont they?
Does the inverse work too then? As you ARENT getting a negative vibe about this fiasco will you now be going to the OTHER ridiculous extreme then? Watching news coverage of missing girls 24/7/365? Watching the parents of this little girls home movies and replaying all the news coverage over and over endlessly?
Why not? If a negative view in your tiny mind equates to never watching again doesnt a non negative one equally equate to constantly watching it?
Thinking the parents are panty slime, thinking they dont seem bothered or could even be seeming like theyre enjoying the attention doesnt magically remove curiosity for the next episode in the series so you can see if the butler, the parents or a passing politician did it
How presumptious and hypocritical of you to read into a post something which isnt there…of course, a crime you accused others of but not you.
So, If you dont like something on TV, you watch it anyway- how foolish. I dislike the media circus surrounding the case and havent watched anything other than brief snippets for the last week- freedom of choice. – you chose to view ithe post as total avoidance, no where in my post do i say that, you read into it something which isnt there because it suits your view of events- funny that, something you accuse other of :lol: :lol:
If you dont like what you read, see, hear etc no one is forcing you to watch it
N this is a board where everyone takes contrary opinions and everyone has the right to do so
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@slayer wrote:
@bat wrote:
@johnboy25 wrote:
‘At worst we were naive’ said the parents in a newspaper interview ‘But we are good parents’
Naive? Try stupid, careless or irresponsible and insert the word ‘extremely’ in front of either or all.
Exactly. Well said.
I,m sick to death of seeing pictures of them two, wandering around, meeting people, shaking hands, kissing everyone and being treated like effing royalty. I want to know where the tears are. Anyone seen any pics of them looking in the least bit upset? Because I havn,t. Not one.:?
One minute this thread is about the mass media intrusion and invasion of this incident….and then someone complains about not seeing the right sort of photo!
I sincerely hope (and dont even begin to get supercilious on me and say it wouldnt happen) you never ever find yourself in the same situation and be judged because you havent got the right facial expression or the right “manner” for someone who has had a child abducted.
I couldnt give a flying fig if this entire media circus with the parents is played out to the extreme…why? cos I wouldnt wish to be in their shoes for all the gold and silver in the world and if they wanna play it this way n u dont wanna watch or rwad about it…simple, use your little finger n turn the Tv over n dont buy a newspaper for a while.
this thread has caused so much controversy slayer mainly for one of the things u point out….regarding some of us finding ourselves in the same situation…those of us who find the whole thing growing more sickening on a daily basis are the ones who in the first place wouldnt have left 3 BABIES alone in a room while we went off for a meal with friends!!and THEN as its been reported…….leave the remaining 2 in a creche afterwards while we are filmed going to church……having a jog along the beach or holding press conferences. oh and not forgetting apointing a lawyer to deal with the more tiring aspects that god forbid might intrude into *family time*. :roll:
Pats, there but for the grace of god go all of us.
Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, the Soham victims, were 10 years old and left to walk around the town on their own..I dont think ive read a single critical point ever raised on here about that, but it is just as “irresponsible”.
What the Mcanns did is what THOUSANDS of holidaymakers do each year. It doesnt make it right but it doesnt make them pariahs either. I, along with many others, was a latch key kid from the age of 6 years old cos both my parents worked til 530.
Ever left your child in the car when you pay for your petrol? Or jus nipped into the post office to get a stamp n left the little un asleep cos youve parked right outside? Or left your child alone in another room whilst you peg the washing out? etc etc etc- time is irrelevant, 1 minute, 10 minutes, 20 minutes etc
As I said, they may well have been less than sensible but that doesnt mean they deserve what has happened and it doesnt make them satan nor does it mean they are responsible for what happened. That attitude (“its someone else’s fault, not the abductor’s”) it exactly the same tact used by many child abusers (“it’s always someone else’s fault, the child, the parent, etc etc”)
there is only one true fact that we know
A child has been abducted, every thing else becomes a periphery issue and we are in no place to be judge and jury
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