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fgs someone throw Emma a bone
I dont need a dictionary definition to tell me when something stinks- I dont need a dictionary to tell me when something is immoral and unethical.
The BNP wishes to repatriate races back to their perceived origins (this is for people who are more English than you and I.
The BNP wishes to do ban mixed marriages (for mixed read anything that involves someone who isnt British or if they are British, they must be white)
The BNP wishes to put first white, heterosexual male (and possibly female) rather than put all British first
As I said, the SNP is a nationalist party with a broad cross gender, cross race, cross culture appeal- the BNP could do a lot worse than look at that example
Now accept that the BNP message, in BNP heartland territory (Stoke, Sandwell, Burnley, Kirklees, Bradford, Oldham etc etc etc) has been heard and rejected- it is democracy which is clearly something you object to when it doesnt go in your favour. Normal everyday people of this nation do not wish to support a party which has, as its core policy, the repatriation of their friends, neighbours, relatives, brothers, sisters, in laws, work colleagues etc
The BNP will always find support in peoples fears and (on viewing their very negative website homepage) exploits them. Luckliy, this will mainly be on the fringe of politics and it is more interesting to see the Greens gain 15 seats last Thursday than the BNP gain 1- perhaps this is the sign of things to come :wink:
@emmalush wrote:
Absolutely not. Theres a weird fascination with you and the BNP, is it a boiling hatred flowing through your blood, or you’re bored with life and wana test me?
It is very very difficult, when you’re a NEW BNP candidate, which is what atleast half those were this week, when the entire political and media population is against you, to win your seat.
WHATEVER votes they got, is success, and like those BNP candidates who have been around for a while and won candidacy, they have now created a base on which to build.
It is pathetic of you to assume that they have failed, wait a few more elections before judging. Remember, the BNP won 808,200 votes in 2004.
If we had a fair media system, the BNP would’ve won 200 seats minimum.
As it is, the big girls get huge free exposure. This is a nightmare for ALL of us, as we only get a certain few who wana work for us.
I asked you all to vote for a smaller party.
Emma, you have flooded this particular section of JC with either BNP or anti Islam/establishment/anything else topics which at times have been very lively and entertaining. However the BNP (particularly through their website which predicted up to 50 seats gained which shows they believed their own hype) expected to win seats – they totally misjudged the electorate and their negative campaigning has rebounded on them
As such, those of us who are vehemntly opposed to the BNP can gloat with pleasure at their total failure last week- just as you would have done had they been successful.
You can blame everything and anyone you want and the BNP will too (though their website has gone very quiet since Thursday) but if they do, they will fail to understand that their one main reason for receiving votes (immigration and repatriation policies) is also the main reason they will never be anything but a fringe element in UK politics.
Bluster and fluster all you like- for all the BNP’s campaiging and leafletting, they totally failed last week- even in areas like Stoke where even Searchlight expected them to almost walk into the council unopposed. Burnley, they actually lost seats- and this is nothing to do with being unexposed or being misportrayed in the media- the people of Stoke and Burnley know exactly who the BNP are- they just chose NOT to vote for them- get used to it…its called DEMOCRACY
Wasp- the only 2 wards where the BNP were ever likely to succeed were Cleckheaton and Dewsbury East- the rest of Kirklees put the BNP 3rd at best and more often 4th and 5th. Their votes did number in the hundreds but the winners were in the thousands. Still, you used your democratic right and that is to be appluaded
wasp
The south will reject the BNP. the North (except Lincoln where not one BNP candidate has been elected!) will see a BNP rise
My prediction anyway
Martin
You beat me to it!!
Broxbourne 1 BNP 0
the Scottish National Party
A true example of how a genuine nationalist party supports and fights for ALL residents within that country and does not prejudice anyone other than the proviso that they are scottish.
The BNP have so much to learn
Firstly Emma I said the BNP manisfesto NOT its “stance statement”
Read the manifesto as quoted below
“A massively-funded and permanent programme, using and doubling Britain’s current foreign aid budget, will aim to reduce, by voluntary resettlement to their lands of ethnic origin, the proportion of ethnic minorities living in Britain”
“we will also seek to emphasise the importance of the prior status of the aboriginal people”
Emma, we have for the first time in Lincoln seen the BNP and having got over Nick Griffin blaming women going to work for our shortage of dentists and blaming non car owning migrants for Lincoln’s decade old traffic problem, we have seen what they really stand for.
Actually, I can;t be bothered to even waste my time arguing with someone as pedantic as you
Having read the BNP website, they are already preparing many of their candidates for defeat, blaming of course everything and everyone but themselves.
It would be interesting to see how many spoiled ballot papers there are (in line with the BNP campaign to spoil a ballot paper where the BNP is incapable of fielding a candidate, i.e. destroying democracy through their own incompetence and weakness) across the country.
I might even stay up to watch some of it tonight
@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
3 of my children have a British West Indian mother who the BNP wishes (along with her entire family, who incidentally came over here and ended up as a squadron leader and a head of department at a comprehensive school) to “encourage” them to return to a country that
Earlier you spoke about the BN creating a fear, arent you doing the same thing with the comment “encourage”? Play a fair game slayer.
b) my kids granparents havent lived in for almost 50 years. It starts with encouraging and is insidious and evil and i will fight it wherever is see it.
Earlier you were glad your children were encouraged to learn about fascist religious beliefs, make up your mind…
How about a segregation of sorts, whereby families like yours can have parts of britian, and all-white families can have different parts? Do you wana live side by side with those who dont wana live side by side with you?
It is racist becuase they dont believe in sending any Brits with Irish descent back to Ireland or those with Aus descent back to Aus, its only for those who are none white
You’re an idiot slayer, you do not KNOW the dictionary definition meaning of racism.
I cant be bothered to quote a quote of a quote Emma
I dont encourage anything, i take the BNP mainfesto and quote it- none whites encouraged to return, whites can stay. And what format does this “encouragement” take- removal of rights for none whites, putting whites first (as opposed to putting Britons first), it is insidious and evil
And I dont remmeber calling any sikh a fascist- and dont even begin to make yourself sound even more ridiculous by claiming a philospohical belief is equal to a theological belief. Belief in god is not the same as belief in the BNP, trust me on that one and I dont even like religion.
And Im an educated idiot if you dont mind
I tell you what Emma, I’ll find (no I’ll win the lottery and buy) an place somewhere where all the you white sepratists can live. Actually, I prefer you here because your extremism actually does not do the BNP any favours because it shows the true light of its supporters
@waspish wrote:
slayer . as i have said before i have no problem with the colour of any persons skin i was brought up with the ethos that were all the same colour in the dark and no one should ever judge a person on first meeting. my dad was an ausie [btw] i have a half sister who is mixed race and two full blown aboriginee brothers so i can hardly be colour prejudised can i ? that aside i concede i may be ignorant in some respects and fully respect the views of others in all aspects. but why oh why do we keep on harping on about the bnp ? i personally think they have a right to their opinions as do we all. that doesnt mean im a supporter through and through, indeed you have educated me to a lot of their policies and beliefs. as has emmalush. and i say again I can only speak as i find personally. do you live in a predominantly muslim area ? im guessing not. but that doesnt mean you know any more or less than i do about their culture or ideals. i was raised a catholic. but didnt go to church after a priest attempted to assault myself and my sister [that aside] my mother refused to believe us and demanded we never told our father about it and we were threatened with going to hell if we did… in the good ole 60s you did as you were told. [there was no such thing as compensation then] my children have been raised with a healthy regard for other people regardless of colour or religion but i stand by what i say religion is fear . am i wrong ? i believe that most religions instill fear and hatred into their followers, jews against muslims, catholics against protestants, sikhs against hindus. need i go on… but one thing remains in my psyche how many of the wars in the world today are being fought in the name of allah ?? quite a significant number i think.. darfur for instance, where the people are dying by the thousand every month becaus they are attempting to escape genocide in the name of allah… correct me if im wrong bit if i were not for this war these people would not be displaced ? apart from the fact that most of africa is starving to death without this being done to them. is it my imagination but wasnt the 9/11 atrocity done in the name of allah ? i may be only reciting recent wars and actions and i understand that the christian faith and the roman catholics have done equally terrible things but in this day and age wars are fought on a dailt basis in the little box in all of our front rooms, and we have the ability to stop or do something about it dont we ? it should be stopped. whoever is doing it to whoever . and all in the name of GOD sureley you can see where im seing this from ???
I go ona bout the BNP for 2 reasons- 1, 3 of my children have a British West Indian mother who the BNP wishes (along with her entire family, who incidentally came over here and ended up as a squadron leader and a head of department at a comprehensive school) to “encourage” them to return to a country that a)my kids mother has never lived in and b) my kids granparents havent lived in for almost 50 years. It starts with encouraging and is insidious and evil and i will fight it wherever is see it. It is racist becuase they dont believe in sending any Brits with Irish descent back to Ireland or those with Aus descent back to Aus, its only for those who are none white
I may be wrong about Darfur and im gonna google now but i think darfur is more about arab sudanese (who are indeed muslim) cleansing darfur of african sudanses (who are also muslim). I think it is to the muslim worlds shame that they have not stepped in as a group to stop this genocide- it is more about nationalism than religion
However we do agree broadly on religious grounds so it cant all be bad. :D
@emmalush wrote:
@hermangrrrman! wrote:
Remember, Liverpool have only conceded FIVE goals at home in the league all season. Truly remarkable :P
I sometimes wonder if my team had your resources, we’d do the same.
If liverpool only had 3 million a year to spend on the entire playing staff, how well do you think you’d do?
At least get to the play offs, like Derby :wink:
