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7 May, 2006 at 6:20 pm #212930
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Some immigrants are good and some immigrants are bad. Each immigrant has to be judged on his own individual merits. As simple as that. END OF STORY.
My point and of all the ones i have come across, sorry they are bad!
7 May, 2006 at 6:05 pm #213795You all need hanging is all i can say.
7 May, 2006 at 6:02 pm #2138097 May, 2006 at 4:55 pm #188203@becky wrote:
About 4 weeks ago and still cant shake the image :shock:
When was the last time you spent more money than you have on something you dont even wear or need?
Tell me who…….. :lol:
7 May, 2006 at 4:51 pm #213754Thank you ppl, glad to see your well angel. xx
7 May, 2006 at 1:19 pm #213454@Lambrini Girl wrote:
Judging by all the threads that have been dedicated to – directly and indirectly – to racism, it is obvious we all have strong feelings regarding the matter. If only we could all put as much energy into understanding fellow human beings as we do in trying to classify and categorise them … I am sure the world would be a better place for it.
Most people’s attitudes and preconceptions are influenced by the environment they live or have been brought up in. To try and break that cycle would be an achievement indeed. But that requires willingness, commitment, and, most of all, an open mind. I live in a prominently white area, where most of the crimes are committed by white young males. I have two white young males of my own, neither of whom are criminals, although a few of their school chums have fallen by the wayside over the years.
I pride myself in having taught them what it means to be a valued and respected member of their community. Despite peer pressure, they have never given me a moment to feel ashamed or guilty. They are also very apt at sussing people out, regardless of the creed/colour/conviction.
I guess what I am trying to say is … We reap what we sow. Someone has to take stock at some point, and stop the vicious cycle. Humanity is what matters, not politics, religions, colours … etc.
Totally agree.
My sons best friend is jamacian, and is moving back there in a few weeks and my son is devastated. My kids arent racist as i done condone it.
7 May, 2006 at 1:14 pm #212927@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Well Becky you haven’t said whether the people in this block are immigrants, refugees or asylum seekers. Your story just doesn’t add up and I don’t think you’ve given us all the relevant facts. I don’t think you can know the personal circumstances of all those people just because your relative lives with one.
If they are asylum seekers then it would explain why they don’t work. The government doesn’t allow them to!!! That might explain any grant to buy furniture but I’ve never heard of people given a grant to buy a car. So maybe the people with cars aren’t asylum seekers.
I would take your story more seriously if you actually had concrete details but all I’m hearing is hearsay. So while there might be elements of truth in your story, it sounds mostly like gossip and rumour.
Im sorry but what she has said is true. How can she record evidence for a forum? Why dont you come and see for yourself, move in for a week and i guarantee your attitude will change. But lets face it you cant really do that, its silly but not as silly as you expecting Becky to post proof.
7 May, 2006 at 1:13 pm #212926@Mrs Clean wrote:
@becky wrote:
@slayer wrote:
@becky wrote:
@slayer wrote:
@becky wrote:
OK not far from where i live there is a high rise block dedicated to Immigrants. I used to live in there many many moons ago, i came home from work one night to come in the block (hubby in the flat looking after our baby or i would have rung him) a group of 8 immigrants asked me for a “favour” i asked what and the filth out their mouth shocked me and they wouldnt let me past they said my lips were lovely but even nicer doing certain things to them. A guard saw them on camera and came to help me (as many complaints were going around about them).
Also theie flats are fully furnished, designer clothes, mobiles and cars and all live off the STATE. Me and my husband both worked and still do but we have to save for such things. When we moved out we barely had anything but their flats were all FULLY furnished?!?!?!
Also the police are always their as i know of 14 13-15 year old girls who are pregnant by them and are being done for rape as they would have 1 girl to “share” as they put it. Now i know “English” people do it aswell but we always talk about those subjects aswell as these. The immigrants around here do give all a bad name but that isnt to say im RACIST or a BIGOT its just personal experiences i have had and i cant comment on what i dont know, so i comment on what i do.But Becky, does your experience mean immigration is wrong? If your experience had been at the hands of 8 white youths in hoodies- would that have meant all white youths in hoodies were at fault.
That’s the problem I have with the situation- blaming immigrants per se for the actions of a mindless few is like blaming every football fan in the country for the actions of a few hooligan thugs- i can’t relate to that.
For me, it is a crime and justice problem rather than an immigration one- everyone is subject to our laws- break the law, serve your sentence if convicted.
No im not so keen on hoodies either whatever colour they are as from experience they hang around scaring the old women round the shops and at night time even worse. All what i comment on is PERSONAL experience OK each person is different i dont see what you see and i wont just to please anyone. It seems to me if you dont agree on JC boards with the “ones who think they know it all” you gat called names. I dont bow to anyone i have my opinion OK i shouldnt have to explain it or defend it i will say one more time I DONT CARE WHAT COLOUR, RACE, SHAPE OR SIZE IF YOU GET AN EASY RIDE OR A TEARAWAYIM NOT SO KEEN and i am not a bigot GOT IT? And slayer this isnt aimed at you before you think it is 8)
:D s’ok Becky- didn’t take it as aimed at me :D
It is clear your personal experiences of immirgants living here is different to mine- I have not, nor would I, seek to play down or undermine your experience.
We’ll always disagree on the cause even if we agree on the outcome
At least you are decent Slayer and allow me to have my own opinion without calling me a bigot, but as you say yes my experiences are bad so im yet to experience the good. I would like to be proven wrong i really would.
Becky, I would just like to say that I don’t think that you and Tadpole are racist, I think you call it as you see it. I think some people may have been quick to judge you. I’ve read through alot of your posts to try and see where you are coming from, and I can understand in the area you live there are alot of immigrants and your experience of them has not been positive. I also read Becky that you have not voted for the BNP, which I think is fantastic, it would have been easy for you to vote for them had you been the bigot that you had been labelled, but you obviously see the bigger picutre.
Thank you.
6 May, 2006 at 5:09 pm #213327@becky wrote:
@james Belfast wrote:
@becky wrote:
@cas wrote:
@becky wrote:
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The Kosovans/Albanians sit around in the cafe’s all day and no doubt discuss their earnings from their prostitution rackets. And that………………….at the end of the day……………is what really pisses me off! :evil:
You see what you have said is my point but for that i have been called a RACIST and a BIGOT?!?!?! God knows why as im far from both. But valid point Cas
I think maybe Becky is genuinely aggrieved at being labelled a racist but she can’t blame people for making such assumptions if she posts things like this!
Hang on you have me there quoting what Cas said, i didnt say the stuff in blue i said the stuff in black OK so get it right before you point the finger OK?????
So basically if we arent a s s licking our foreign cousins like some on here are, we are racist? FFS and they have the nerve to call me a bigot!
6 May, 2006 at 1:45 pm #212833@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
@tadpole wrote:
I have pure english blood and have a family tree reading…… :D
@becky wrote:
I have pure English blood but that doesnt make me a Bigot 8)
Heads up arses springs to mind! :roll:
Wigga and wears blinkers springs to mind here!
I would also have added an ignorant p r i c k but i feel p r i c k s are probably fairer in their thinking. (ie have more brains).
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