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@minim wrote:
I know there are people online who portray themselves as differently from who they are in the real world.
I suppos using nicknames, instead of their real names is an example of that.
Are you saying that Sgt Pepper isn’t really a sgt and doesn’t wear a uniform? #-o Why on earth did I ever believe he was….?@(f)politics? wrote:
Your comment regarding sensitive soul panda…
Unfortunately when discussing such things it can’t be done openly anymore for fear of being classed as a bigot, which i think is why your original post abt the whole bringing up immigrants thing was taken as it was, and many subsequent posts since where you have commented on it, have indeed come across as, people are blaming immigration for things that immigration could well have a part to play in, it has nothing to do with race at all, if they were white from france, austrailia or whereever so called white people are it is still immigration, and just cos of any past history where asians or africans or whoever have been blamed, i think the polish for example although white, are still coming here in too greater a numbers than the country can cope with and may well be playing a part.
Alot of people are sensitive to saying the wrong thing and you are and do jump on things like this often so i guess it was a conclusion that made alot of sense to come to, that you were hinting in that direction.
But if you werent??? then i apologise for thinking you were, as i read it very much the same as Mrs T did for those reasons.
Also though i do think Terry should perhaps listen to other peoples arguements rather than just throw them aside as if unworthy of the challenge or debate, that is too narrowminded, and often the downfall of our politicians too.
But being of any multi racial backgrounds doesnt give anyone the right to stem others opinions by using the race card as a battering ram either, and i felt your comment was putting that barrier there.
Maybe we are just too PC and see something remotely that way and are scared to say anymore, or indeed act defensively for fear of being thought of that way, i dunno, i’m babbling now cos i really see a divide here between people and their racial views rather than the whole point of this thread. We should debate the posts for their own merit rather than their author. Which happens too often.Pol
the fact is that nobody (apart from Sgt Pepper) has made a positive, coherent contribution to this thread. And that’s disappointing. I’ve read (listened) to all the comments, which kind of goes against what you’ve written. But what i’ve read is soulless, lifeless and almost like walikng across a desert with no oasis in sight. It’s despairing to me that people use racism as a means to fight their cause simply because they see fit to do so. Not because it exists, but because they find some kind of comfort and self-significance to bang that drum.
It’s political correctness at its worst.[-X @ Kenty
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
In case you haven’t noticed I’m defending your arse here!!!
I wish you’d leave my a rse out of it. :roll: I wondered how long it would take you.
@panda12 wrote:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
So simplistic and naive IMHO. Ah of course, since then you’ve thrown in a few references to Gordon Brown just to mix it up a bit but your arguement in my eyes, remains incrediably simplistic and naive.
You really don’t bring anything to the debate. Apart from abuse.
OK Tel – where’s the abuse in that post, or any other?
It’s the abuse of privilege.
I’m not a racist despite your subliminal attempts to make me appear like one.
I’ve been subjected to racial abuse all my life. I know what it feels like. I don’t bring racism into my opinion and it’s not in my mindset.
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Excellent post pepsi 8)
Nail on the head.It is the misrepresentation of an opinion that’s the issue here. Nobody is denying the entitlement, but a certain responsibilty must accompany both the expressing and reception of that opinion for it and it’s arguments to be truly merited. Especially in a debate enviroment.
Negative observations on immigration being misconstrued as racist and/or naive or being dismissed as irrelevant to a socio-political discussion such as this is a perfect example of a totally lazy, if not ignorant approach to these responsibilities.
Sgt, I enjoy reading your posts but, please – if you want me to take you seriously you need to sort your grammar out. Seriously. ](*,)
@jewel* wrote:
Got me train tickets , room all booked sooooo cant wait xxxxx
which hotel are you staying at?
@eve wrote:
People are people whether online or on the net.
That’s too deep for me. I’ll need to go away and think about this particular concept.
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
Can you give a straightforward confirmation please?
Much appreciated.Sgt, I’m beginning to think panda struggles on a certain commonsensical level and would rather sit on the fence throwing stones, hoping we go away.
