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30 August, 2008 at 7:13 pm #367497
Vammpyyyyy
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Happy Birthday ya old craddock
30 August, 2008 at 7:11 pm #367465@pete wrote:
@bon bon wrote:
@pete wrote:
Peter
Next to Jesus, Peter is probably the most important figure in the New Testament. Roman Catholics revere him as the first pope, and all Christians revere him as Jesus’s number one guy. Most biblical scholars agree that whatever the resurrection was, Peter was probably the first to recognize it and the first to spread the message to other people. If we have Jesus to thank for the message, we have Peter to thank for determining that the message was important enough to pass on after Jesus’s death.
The etymology of Peter’s name is interesting. “Peter,” as most of us familiar with biblical passages will know, was actually a nickname. His birth name was Simon – or, in Aramaic, “Shimon” (pronounced “shee-mone”). However, according to the Gospels, at some point during his ministry, Jesus gave Simon a nickname. Matthew’s gospel says that Jesus decided to call Simon “the rock” because he would be the rock upon which the church was built (thus the Roman Catholic claim to apostolic succession). This is how Simon ended up being called Peter.
The New Testament, despite describing people who were Aramaic-speaking Jews, living in Roman-controlled Palestine, was written entirely in Greek. “Peter,” then, is an English transliteration of the Greek name “Petros.” “Petros,” on the other hand, was a Greek translation of the original Aramaic nickname. In Aramaic, the word for “rock” was “keef” (again, that’s an English spelling…but it shows how the Aramaic word would have been pronounced). Thus, when Jesus decided to call Simon “the rock,” he began calling him Keepha (or Kifa, or Keefa, or any of another dozen ways you could spell it in English). The New Testament, as I said above, was written in Greek. So in a few places, the Greek writers of the New Testament transliterated “Keepha” into Greek, thus calling him “Cephas.” If you’ve ever heard of the name “Cephas” before, and wondered why that was an alternative to Peter’s name, this is why – it was a Greek transliteration of the Aramaic nickname (my grandfather had a brother named Cephas). However, in many places in the New Testament, the writers simply translated (not transliterated) the Aramaic nickname into Greek. Since “petra” is the Greek word for “rock,” they called him Petros, to denote that it was a male name. And then, from “Petros,” we transliterate it into English as “Peter.”
When you look at the etymology of this name, you begin to realize that “Peter” is probably the most nonsensical choice – historically speaking – of names to call this apostle. As illustrated above, it is a transliteration of a Greek translation of an original Aramaic nickname. It would make a lot more sense to simply call him “Petros,” using the translated Greek name that is most often used in the original language of the New Testament, call him “Keepha” in order to stick to the actual Aramaic name, or, at the very least, translate the name from Aramaic directly into English, instead of first going through Greek.
Of course, if we did that, then the father of the Catholic Church, and Jesus’s closest apostle, would be Pope Rocky.
oh and my name is Peter so i lobbed the r off
a simple *my name is Peter* would have sufficed :roll:
fair point :lol:
FFS pete
30 August, 2008 at 7:09 pm #367464@chickenman wrote:
Chickenman was taken by a chinesse transsexual on faceparty
That must have been pleasant for you.
: o )
29 August, 2008 at 10:07 pm #366815@stormdancer wrote:
@tuffty wrote:
I done 7 posts now…..soon it will be 10 8)
well done on yr posts and well done that you can count up to 10, i’m sooooo proud of you!!! /quote]
tuffty rocks !
29 August, 2008 at 9:49 pm #367328@dead_on_arrvial wrote:
I did hear that one of the site staff was sack last week for continuo..
A source told meWe can’t talk about it, but someone moan to the site about him having a small sausage and the site feels its reflex on them in a bad way.
When he fill out the application form to become a chatguide, we through tiny rob was a chat name not a actual size. From now ForumHostGM will be carrying out inspections …….
Fantastic work there DOA, some of your best
29 August, 2008 at 8:54 pm #367285@bon bon wrote:
today I have been nominated to count stock in a walk in freezer
Ive got my thermals on and my fluffy socks (nothing else)
I can only be in 5 mins at a time
then I have to emerge and be cuddled by the managerPSML bon bon
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29 August, 2008 at 5:41 am #367255Yes. I have challenges with rewards, and responsibilities, and people to care for and nurture in their careers.
And so off I go once more……
toodle-pip
x29 August, 2008 at 5:05 am #311919There was a man
With a coloured coat of rags
Who left his body and blood on a tree.
But the thieves at his side gave the bones to the dogs,
And the black-thorn coc.k sang merrily.The lads of the town
Drank down to the dregs
Then took a sharp axe to lop the tree.
But the thieves had been there first gathering logs,
And the black-thorn coc.k sang steadily.One day at dawn
Upon their nags
Twelve tinkers came and their hearts were free,
For they cut twelve whistles from the knuckles of the dogs,
To bear the black coc.k company.Legend
Henry Treece28 August, 2008 at 7:01 pm #366791you lot have my spirits buoyed,
so I may go see Doctor Freud . . . . .
27 August, 2008 at 4:56 pm #366746cath bet me a fiver to type that, and now she refuses to pay me.
mugged off again……….
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