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…and take whatever Trump wants to give you.
Post-Brexit Britain gets ready to become a US dependency in its desperation for a trade deal to save her from a post-Brexit disaster
Boris might raise laughs over his calling Corbyn a mutton-headed Mugwump, but
he’s saying he would bomb Syria without necessarily going to Parliament if Trump asks him to. He’ll support anything Trump does over North Korea, Iran, anything really.
And with US companies ganging up to muscle in on the NHS, you can kiss goodbye to what’s already becoming a very frayed institution..
Post-Brexit Britain gets ready to become a US dependency in its desperation for a trade deal to save her from a post-Brexit disaster
The UK is the 2nd largest military power, and the 5th largest ecconomy. We will be fine. Canada for example is far, far smaller than us, would you also describe that as a US dependency?
Boris might raise laughs over his calling Corbyn a mutton-headed Mugwump, but he’s saying he would bomb Syria without necessarily going to Parliament if Trump asks him to. He’ll support anything Trump does over North Korea, Iran, anything really.
Boris is the foreign secretary, he can’t bomb anyone with or without parliament. May however can, And I would oppose her escalating conflict in Syria. North Korea on the other had I would support, we should have declared war on them decades ago. China won’t risk war with NATO to defend a country which is almost as likely to nuke it as it is the US.
And with US companies ganging up to muscle in on the NHS, you can kiss goodbye to what’s already becoming a very frayed institution..
I’ve never really understood this argument, how exactly do you think that US companies are going to take over the NHS? Even if you viewed it as an independent company, not part of the government, it’s far larger than any company that offeres healthcare in the US. It’s the 5th largest employer in the world, and will soon overtake McDonalds to become 4th.
The UK is the 2nd largest military power, and the 5th largest ecconomy.
The other day you made a thread about the Independent misquoting statistics (it wasn’t), you live in cloud cuckoo land if you think the UK is the worlds 2nd largest military power.
The other day you made a thread about the Independent misquoting statistics (it wasn’t), you live in cloud cuckoo land if you think the UK is the worlds 2nd largest military power.
We’re the only country other than the US to have more than 1 aircraft carrier. Admitedly they are under construction still, but Russia doesn’t even have any dedicated air support for their navy. Military strategy isn’t my strong point but if we have 100 planes, and Russia has 0 then I think victory at sea is nearly guarenteed. Also the UK controls several key trading lanes, the gap between Scotland and the Artic, the English Channel, and entrance into the Mediterranean with Gibralter, all of which have large navy bases nearby.
Our nuclear submarines (trident) are also a lot more advanced than the ones Russia or China have, even though they are scheduled for replacement. But even without nuclear weapons, I don’t see how anyone other than the US would stand any chance of landing troops in Britain, and even then I don’t think it would be possible as they would be in range of the RAF at that point which would neutralise the advantage America has in naval air power.
Also, the British and American amred forces are the only ones to have any recent combat experience, in Iraq and Afganistan. The last was between developed countries was the Falklands war, which was decisively won by Britain.
As far as I can tell Britain is the only country that has been able to reliably win wars, we are doing a better job in Afganistan than the Soviet Union did, and better than the US did on it’s own in Vietnam as much as that can be compared to the Middle East.
You live in cloud cuckoo land. You just make it up as you go along.
You live in cloud cuckoo land. You just make it up as you go along.
You haven’t refuted anything I have said.
I have got absolutely no intention of getting into one of your aimless, never ending debates. Cloud cuckoo land. You could of course back up your silly claim with some factual evidence, that the UK is the worlds 2nd largest military power. Ludicrous, even for you.
Drac, that is a weird argument.
If Britain goes to war with Russia, the whole island would be turned into a nuclear waste-dump within minutes.
It ain’t going to happen because the UK is not an independent armed power. We rely on the US, and we do what the US tells us to do.
Boris is taking it where it hurts from Trump, and will continue to do so. He has said yes virtually every time Trump tweets.
That’s what we do. Britain had no interest in going to war with Afghanistan or Iraq, but we went to war because that’s what we do – what America tells us.
We went into the EU because America told us to. Kennedy insisted on it. That’s why de Gaulle wouldn’t let us into the EU, because he said we would be an American Trojan Horse.
We remain a major economic power (not the 5th biggest power, but it’s big).
That’s why when we leave the EU, it will hurt them, and they’ll hurt back.
But in deciding to reduce our trade with the EU (we’re just being frozen out of the multi-billion euro Galileo space project in which we were the primary beneficiaries; apparently Frankfurt, not Paris, is winning the money that London is voluntarily giving up in the valuable Euro markets), we’re desperate for trade deals. India for one smells blood in the water.
We’re particularly desperate for a trade deal with the US, which means that Boris Johnson is going to have to take it where it hurts from Trump, whenever Trump feels like it. As he said to one female contestant on his reality show, “you’d look pretty good facing the wall on your knees”.
America isn’t going to be doing us, or anyone, any favours. They will trade with us to gain money, and that’s why American companies are beginning to slaver over the NHS.
They’re like Capita, which has a stranglehold on services in British education and the NHS. Capita does not give a fig for British children being schooled, or students receiving their loans on time, or people’s health (anyone other than me had dealings with this awful company??). What Capita cares about is money, and making as much of it from government tender as it possibly can.
Why will the American companies be any different??
i remember when the NHS and education was publicly owned and controlled, dedicated to providing health care and education above any demands for profit.
Well, we voted for bloody Brexit; we pay the consequences.
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sceptical guy.
sceptical guy what a load of sentimental tosh. Please continue to entertain us with your drivel.
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