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Thank god you don’t run the world Drac !
I will one day, try and stop me.
have no idea why you are quoting an initiative that was introduced to tackle and that should be tackled, domestic violence. Is that your Ph.D head on, Doctor Drac.
I was simply exposing a hypocrisy in your position.
Wrong choice, muslims (or any other religious group) should not be given special treatment.
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99.9 times it is Drac.
I think you are viewing this too simplisticly. Bullies usually target people who they thing are vunerable for some reason. Anything else (hair colour, clothing, ect) just provides the opertunity to start the abuse.
Drac a lot of time, there doesnt have to be anything ‘wrong’ with their intended target at all. It could be something as simple as wearing the wrong kind of clothes, or their hair colour, or even the fact they do well at school. Sometimes there is no reason…they do it because they get an evil kick out of it. Plus they often have an adoring gang of bullies following them around.
I’m well aware of this, but it isn’t always the case.
I don’t agree that everyone who commits suicide is “mentally ill” as firstly how would one quantify what is mentally ill or not. For eg if someone was terminally ill and in pain would them taking their own life qualify as being mentally ill simply because it was contrary to what was regarded by society as “normal behaviour”. To me it would be a logical albeit unorthodox step to take.
I didn’t say that everyone who commits sucide is mentally ill, only suicides that are ’caused’ by bullying. Or to phase it differently, someone with mental health issues is much more likely to commit suicide if they are bullied than someone who does not have the same issues.
He was also of an age where he brain was still developing so not sure a mental illness tag would ever be appropriate in this instance.
I’m really sure I understand why you think that children can’t suffer from mental health problems. Just because their brain is still developing doesn’t mean that there can’t be anything wrong with it.
Many conditions, autism for example are usually diagnosed during childhood, and have symptoms that lessen into adulthood.
Probably because the one being bullied hides it. The bully will make it clear that if anyone is told, ie parents,police etc, then they will be in BIG trouble, so they bottle it up until they cant take any more. Then you know what happens.
Yes, but for the bully to be able to tell that there is something wrong with their intended target, there must be some recognisable signs that they are acting off. If these can be recognised and taught to parents then it may allow any issues to be identified earlier and for an appropriate treatment to be started.
I would also say that in many cases the underlying issue is the reason they are being bullied in the first place. The bully can percieve that they are ‘different’ somehow, so choses them as the target of abuse rather than someone else.
If this is true, then it also raises the question why the bully can detect that something is wrong, why can’t the child’s parents?
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the Duluth model, and how is it relevant to a thread on bullying??
The Duluth model (as implemented) usually states that all claims of violence against a women must automaticly be believe. Proponents of this model usually also are the type that say that words are a type of violence. (The Duluth model also states that the women is always the vicim of the abuse, even if they are the agressor). It is something I recommend reading about, as it is used in court cases in many countries.
I found it odd that Ge asked for evidence of any bullying happening, despite apparently believing in this kind of ideology (Saying that proposing to a women is also violence in the tennis thread..
Drac, I know very little about you, though I like your willingness to stand up against the trend. I can easily imagine from what I do know about you, that you have been subject to a lot of pretty nasty bullying in life, and that you’ve stood up to it.
This is correct.
That’s admirable, but just because you have doesn’t make others weak-charactered. I’ve yet to see how you can bear out the argument that parents should be able to tell when their kid is under intense pressure which leads to suicide.
Maybe I haven’t made this clear, but I don’t believe in many of these cases that the bullying is the only reason that suicide is commited. I believe that for someone to be driven to do so from such actions also requires a pre-existing mental health issue. Probably some kind of anxiety or paranoia based disorder. It is just as important, if not more so to treat this as well as stopping the bullying.
I would also say that in many cases the underlying issue is the reason they are being bullied in the first place. The bully can percieve that they are ‘different’ somehow, so choses them as the target of abuse rather than someone else.
