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13 November, 2006 at 11:30 pm #248468
@slayer wrote:
I am already convinced of the need for ID cards Emma
Im glad to see your prepared to be watched for when you might commit a crime.
13 November, 2006 at 8:02 pm #247961The other incredible difference between MJ’s trial and NG’s is the media attitude, with MJ its was about 60-40 in favour, with NG it was about 5-95 in favour at best.
We all pretty much know that MJ isnt squeaky clean, especially his bed sheets :wink: , but because he has a mass of world wide support, including well “respected” celebrities like liza minelli and joan collins etc, and used to be black, someone who the media quite like, they couldn’t/wouldn’t bash him.
It was quite easy to belittle NG, yet he was/is much more innocent.
13 November, 2006 at 7:32 pm #248154@rainbowbrite wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
Its X factor, not sing factor, otherwise that woman in the wheel chair would still be in it.
Obviously you have such a talent for listening you remember her wheelchair firstly and not her name or her voice.
Hmm. :?
I remember hearing her glorious voice in Newcastle (or north east), thats what stuck in my head, not her name, not because she’s in a wheel chair, so to explain who i meant, and to explain why she’s out, i said the woman in the wheel chair…
If this x facto was over the radio, she would do better, catch me drift…
Another thing is, simon had to choose between Ray and another young chap about the same age, who was equally good, but because simon didnt want the voting audience vote split between them, he sent one home. Its about picking performers who are as much different as the others, in order to win.
Take a look at all the later stage performers, a very differing looking bunch of people.
A half cast guy with big fuzzy hair.
A black chap who sings in a soul style.
4 white chaps.
A half cast female “maria carey” type.
A white man with a “rod stewart” style voice.
2 scottish lads, viewers (scottish ones in particular) made well aware there scottish.
3 black lads/1 whitish lad.
3 women/3 men.
The white woman in a wheel chair.
The young white lad “boy next door”.
The 2 most similar are dionne and nikitto, but in diiferent age groups.The show is not designed to give you a choice on who’s the best, but the competition between simon, sharon and louis.
13 November, 2006 at 7:03 pm #248153@*Dawny* wrote:
Well I disagree with ya there Emma, as the winner will most definatly be selling records, so will the runners up! Look at Maria from last year, she is selling records now, but the only ppl that will buy Ray’s records will be his family and friends, he does not have the X factor, not one bit!
Blimey, sounds like you hate Ray. I didnt say they wouldn’t sell records, i said they dont now, because the x factor is not about selling records in the present, please read before replying next time.
13 November, 2006 at 6:42 pm #242345The respect atleast the two finalists Heather and Virginia have for Ramsey was clear to see, they may not have liked his initial shouting abuse, but its all about getting accross some discipline and seperating the wanabe chefs from the chefs.
13 November, 2006 at 4:03 pm #248464@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
MI5 chief Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller said the security service knew of 30 terror plots threatening the UK and was keeping 1,600 individuals under surveillance.
Sexy even numbers. Why not 31 or 29, 1601 or 1599. I just dont believe the hype.
I wonder how many folk are convinced by the “need” for i.d cards after hearing of this :roll:
As the days, weeks, months and years roll on, soon the society of control becomes more like reality

13 November, 2006 at 3:57 pm #248009@chathostuk wrote:
Yes, I was waiting for someone to go collect the true facts in response to my sarcastic response to Emma’s figures. Quite a difference from the £14bn (over 21bn in Euros) she quoted. Not that Emma takes all the statements from the BNP website as complete and utter truth, of course – she was only out by about five times over ;)
I was quoting the UKIP leader nigel farage who said recently it was approximately £15B.
“…the current estimates put it at £11 billion. The pro-EU Institute of Directors calculated it as more than double – and rising. Indirect costs – complying with regulations, loss of earnings from farming, fishing, etc., raise the overall cost still further.
Withdrawal from the EU would yield Britain a £25 billion Independence Dividend.”
http://www.ukip.org/index.php?menu=10reasons&page=10reasonstoleavetheeumr bigastuff looks to have quoted a break down limited version of cost by a pro european and anti-English media outfit.
So my chathost, next time you wana make yourself look good for the benefit of your website, THINK before you critisize in taking sides with a failed poster :D
The be all of this is, that whatever the net contribution and overall cost to the eu is, its too much, and shows that our political masters have yet again failed in their duties to represent the people who put them there via our taxes.
13 November, 2006 at 3:19 pm #247958@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Griffin and Collet’s words are self-evident. Their purpose is to stir up hatred towards asians and muslims. What else do you call the suggestion that asians/muslims will harm someone in your family if you don’t do something about them?
Making folk aware of the dangers posed.
What is true about the claim that it’s acceptable in muslim culture to take white women by force or by deception? If anything, muslim parents prefer their kids to have relationships with other muslims rather than people of another faith.
What kind of decent relationship is it to rape someone?
It shows how screwed up this country is when a person can be caught on video and audio inciting hatred against minorities
HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT OF INCITEMENT TO RACIAL HATRED…
11 November, 2006 at 8:33 pm #248117NONE of them are selling records, there prostituting themselves for votes from an arm chair audience that LOVE what Raymond is doing.
Its melted cheese galore, but Raymond is the best at it, and that’s what counts, NOTHING else.
11 November, 2006 at 8:07 pm #248114Leoni has the best voice, but the x factor is not just about voice, its about thrill factor via image and ability to entertain.
They all have nice squeaky voices bar Ben, who’s voice is more different than anyone on any of these shows has ever had, but raymond has the all-round ability to sing, entertain and thrill an audience.
Its X factor, not sing factor, otherwise that woman in the wheel chair would still be in it.
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