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OH yesssss. Mwah mwah … I wuvs ya sis etc etc …………
sloppy drivel and tears continued for 98 long boring pages………..
Well hey Mr B. Thanks also for the guided tour of world anti-colonial revolutionary movements. Sadly it comes across in the manner of a Marxist university common room left-wing bore – but I’m sure you didn’t mean it that way.
But you know all this ”people’s resistance”, ”freedom fighters” stuff is soooo 70’s and 80’s. These arguments have been comprehensively beaten to death by far more clever people than you and I. Che Guevara is long since dead and Fidel Castro won’t be with us for too much longer either, and so it goes. Even the 90’s style arguments about denial of human rights etc is getting to sound a bit tired now. Time to change the record eh?
There is absolutely nothing to stop Palestinian fishermen from fishing, Palestinian farmers from farming and so on – other than a willingness on their part to stop attacking Israel with rockets, suicide bombers, cross border raids etc. If they desist with their attacks then there would be no need for an Israeli retaliation, and surprise surprise… peace would break out.
Just think of that….. the terrorists could stop killing people (including each other) and devote their energies to growing their economy. They could spend all their cash on helping their own society instead of spending it on even more arms and explosives. Wow… what a change THAT would make eh? Who knows, they might even be able to pay their Police force and their Civil Service.
All the time that they persist in carrying out terrorist atrocities, they will bear the full weight of Israeli retaliation. Negotiation is simply not an option as the Palestinian terrorists will simply treat this as a form of surrender in other terms. Nobody in the world will negotiate with terrorism.
Remember that Hamas is a confirmed terrorist organisation and is totally committed to the absolute destruction of Israel by any means. All the political window dressing in the world won’t change that fact.
@chathostuk wrote:
France are absolutely terrible. You know what, I think I would rather England met them in the next round rather than Ecuador….
That’s the problem with sporting predictions, they’re so often wrong. France 1 Brazil 0 and England lose to Portugal.
Oh well better luck in 2018 or whenever.
Meanwhile, Italy WILL win the World Cup !!!
This is all soooo touching, I am crying bucket loads here.
Looks like you’ve pulled Mr B. :wink:
Some pretty persuasive points there Mr A. But surely the death penalty is intended to be the ultimate deterrent?
I am not going to go into all the ”liberal” reasons to excuse why a person kills another, but to put the whole thing really really simply: The ultimate crime in society is the unlawful taking of a person’s life from them. This in the past has been punished by the ultimate punishment that society can inflict, that of taking the killer’s life in return.
Imprisonment for a determinate period of time in the case of a coldly premeditated killing usually isn’t a deterrent whereas inflicting the same ‘penalty’ on the killer may in some cases deter. It also serves a useful purpose in that it provides an outlet for controlled vengeance.
Yes it is always possible to deploy the usual arguments against – what if they were innocent etc etc – but the victim is always innocent isn’t he?
I would support the re-introduction of judicial execution in cases of proven premeditated unlawful killing.
@becky wrote:
…..I take it you have no kids PB if you do you must have not had a social life at all from the day they were born till they roll on 18 am i right oh perfect 1????? :lol: :lol: :lol:
In fact you are quite wrong – I do have a wife and family AND we have a perfectly adequate social life as well. Sorry to blow your theory out of the water.
Oh ….my…..God !!! I mwoves ya too sis mwahh mwahh mwahh (bursts into tears wiv all the emoshun).
So and on behalf of the Palestinians, you are still whingeing Mr B about how unfair it all was and how the poor old Palestinians have been treated. Never mind that they fought (and are still fighting) a terrorist war and to date have totally and utterly lost.
There is absolutely nothing at all to prevent the ”orange farmers” just getting on with their farming and so on. The only thing that is getting in the way of the Palestinian people making any sort of progress is their constant wish to fight last Century’s fight when it is obvious to all that they lost it back then.
The Hamas terrorists still think that they can take on the Israeli people and their Army and win. It hasn’t dawned on them that they have no chance at all. Yet still they spend their resources on buying ever more outdated arms – I mean what good is a 20 year old second hand AK-47 with low velocity ammo against a tank ffs??? In any sort of serious conflict, how well do you suppose a rag tag bunch of badly trained terrorists are going to do against a well trained, well equipped professional army???
They parade around in front of the world’s press cameras trying their best to look hard with bazookas on their shoulders and balaclava helmets on ffs. Haven’t they worked out yet that a one shot obsolete ballistic weapon is about as much use against modern armour as a mosquito trying to sting a Crocodile’s tail.
Every silly little bomb they make; every bullet they buy; every rocket they fire takes food from their own people’s mouths to pay for it. They can’t even pay their own Police force much less their civil service or public utility employees and yet they still come begging with their hands out for ever more cash – cash which they spend on buying arms or which is stolen from them by their own corrupt leadership.
They might have had some sort of chance if they could only agree within themselves – but no they can’t even manage that. There are more warring factions, groups, cells, committees, etc etc within Fatah / Hamas / and assorted Popular Fronts for the Liberation of Something or Other (if only we could remember what it was), than a mangy old dog has fleas.
So forget the so-called history….. they lost, game set & match and not even their own Arab brotherhood has a good word to say for them.
@geordiebird wrote:
i know the feeling becky :roll:
my bloke is out with a nice cold pint in his hand again,watching the footie while im in the house :xOf course you could always try reading a book, or (God forbid) preparing something edible for you both to eat when he comes home.
