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    First of all Slayer, thank you for your welcome. It is appreciated. Apologies for the delay – I have been out of the country for some time and I decided that the only emails I would check would be work related!

    @slayer wrote:

    LDM
    On the BNP issue, the majority of people in this country care not one jot what creed, colour or race you are…if you’re English mate then I’m afraid you’re stuck with it. You wave the flag, you sing God save the Queen (unless you’re a republican that is), cheer for whichever footie team takes your fancy, slate whichever government is in power as being incompetent etc etc

    On this point – I never said I was English – I said I was British :)

    And I am a Republican – why should I accept a society where an accident of birth confers superiority? I respect achievement and ability – not Hanoverian roots!

    @slayer wrote:

    In other words, you don’t have to justify to me why you’re English….you just are n thats it- whether you like it or not!

    See above!

    @slayer wrote:

    What most English people (of all colours, creed etc) find disturbing is a mass unplanned immigration with no cohesive national policy on education, health, housing, law and order etc. hence some communities have been changed beyond recognition by uncontrolled immigration.

    I agree that immigration needs to be controlled, however, why do you feel the need to excuse the reaction of those sections of society that are unable to deal with the realities of a changing world?

    @slayer wrote:

    Whether we are a power house economy does not detract from the fact that certain sections of our society struggle to make a positive impact (British Pakistani/Bangladeshi contribute less in taxes and take more in benefit than virtually every other community- British Indian contribute more in taxes and take less in benefit than virtually every section of the community including white british).

    Agreed, but I do not see what your point has to be with my post.

    @slayer wrote:

    As for the BNP- its too simplistic to say BNP supporters are those who are unable to progress and unable to accept responsibility for the dire lives they lead totally fails to understand wholesale societal disenfranchisement and impotency at massive enviromental changes (personal and impersonal) and is a typical corporate view- it is no different that me saying British Pakistani Islamic radicalisation is caused by their total failure to integrate into British society and accept a British way of life and only seeing an outlet through trying to create something they understand from something they don’t

    I see no problem with my saying that BNP supporters use their raison d’etre as an excuse for the ills of this nation. I also see your statement regarding the radicalisation of Pakistani muslim youth to integrate into the the zeitgeist opinion of what it means to be British as totally valid. The fact is that that with the BNP you do have a group of peope who are looking for a reason to explain failure – and in the Pakistani muslim youth you are seeing a diaspora shorn of any sort of grounding. The country they are in rejects them, the people around them appear victims, the only unconditional love they have left is of an unseen God, offering salvation from life’s pains. They hanker for something to believe in and the peddler’s of religion offer them hope, they offer them redemption. Like any section of society stripped of the ability to control their own lives, stripped of direction, stripped of self determination – they seek contro

    @slayer wrote:

    As for poltiical correctness- classic failure to understand the hostility towards political correctness is nothign to do with race, colour or creed and everythign to do with with the failure to understand that Christmas is Christmas and if you don’t like, then Im really really sorry but you’ll have to learn to live with it- I wouldnt wish to call Diwali by some other name and neither would I wish to call Christmas by some other name- thats called living together harmoniously and not bending over backwards to accomodate once culture AT THE EXPENSE of another

    My problem is not with political correctness – it is with political correctness couched as bigotry.

    @slayer wrote:

    PC breeds discontent because it’s barkingly stupid- being anti PC is nothign to do with supporting the BNP

    Who said the two were linked intrinsically? My point was that the BNP have been given a valve by those that feel being anti-PC is some sort of holy grail.

    @slayer wrote:

    And yes I do know all about minorities- my kids have a BWI mother and I’m white through n through :wink: (although I do have a little welsh in me somewhere)

    And?

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