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@terry wrote:
@momentaryloss wrote:
I advocate free speech absolutely, but I also advocate the maturity and tolerance it takes to handle it. Many people calling for free speech don’t have that tolerance. :(
We could always lock them up for not being worthy. :roll:
Mmmmm – it’s an option.
You can be in charge of judging the worthy then!
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@sceptical guy wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@ironduke wrote:
pands, can i eat you before you die? :wink: :shock: lol
Lol. Sorry but I’m off the menu for any form of human consumption.
panda, I’m so pleased that you have a clean and decent, Christian mind…
as otherwise the implications are quite disturbing :shock:
I get where you are coming from.
I thought it was a bit of an offer from Old Ironduke and I was going to tell them to take it somewhere private.
My bad.
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deflated
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More seriously, I do absolutely believe in freedom of speech, association and movement – something we don’t have in this “free” democratic country. It’s just that the right to free speech is so much more important than the right to be non-PC (or downright abusive).
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Let’s see a stop to people being jailed for being tasteless or stupid on Twitter and Facebook. I deplore some of the things said about black footballers with heart conditions, and child abuse/murder victims, but locking them up is just way over the top.
We have laws against defamation and incitement to hatred. We need to have them applied consistently and with some balance. At the moment the police and judiciary jump when they think the public will be offended and lock young men up for basically being prats. Others do far more serious things and get away with them.
Let’s get rid the Public Order Act which is part of the apparatus of a Police State. Nobody could be bothered opposing at the time cos it meant the power to lock up troublemakers they didn’t like. We lock people up without trial and extradite them to the USA for crimes they committed in the UK. Class!
What will be locked up for next – opposing the government, protesting peacefully? Ooops, sorry that already happens.
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But while we are at it, let’s not pretend that free speech is pretty or comfortable.
Free speech means respecting the right to protest, even for extremists, the right to strike and other freedoms we no longer take for granted.
Free speech is more than your right to say what you want. You have to be able to respect someone else’s right to free speech, however extreme their views, whilst respectfully disagreeing. That of course gives papers like the Daily Mail a field day, pointing out all the enemies within, and inciting fear of the alien.
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Anyone advocating completely free speech knows that it is a basic right, but one hell of a double-edged sword.
I advocate free speech absolutely, but I also advocate the maturity and tolerance it takes to handle it. Many people calling for free speech don’t have that tolerance.
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Yes of course and let’s put the Daily Mail at the head of the call for free speech.
Let’s cheer as it slags off Muslims and other minorities based on straightforward lies.
Let’s whoop with joy as it seeks to make us frightened of our own shadow and the enemies within.
Let’s take our pitchforks in our hands and go out and hunt down the PC brigade, making sure that once they are gone, we can go after the real outsiders.
Let’s set up a scaffold for everyone who is different and dares to say “hang on old fruit you seem to be treating me unfairly”.
Just one question – whose free speech and to what end?
Whose feeling lucky he’s dead now then, now then, now then?
Gotta laugh.
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@kent f OBE wrote:
@momentaryloss wrote:
@terry wrote:
I’ve just seen HP sauce’s new advert and am shocked that they have dared to film a bacon sandwich. The muslims are going to have a field day with this. :roll:
You don’t really believe that, do you?
You’re trying to wind us up.
There seems to be a common factor….the other day a Frankie Boyle picture was put up and a question asked if he was a racist…even though Panda replied it got deleted
I fancy a bacon butty now! :lol:
Well seeing as old Frankie mainly slags off Glaswegians, and he is one, does that make him racist?
I’m a Glaswegian originally and I am plain sick of hearing him banging on about how drunk, drugged up and violent we are.
Stereotyping – hell yes.
Funny – well, it’s just a bit tired and wearing thin now.
That and his obsession with sexual inappropriateness and self pleasure. Bet his parents are really proud of him.
As Terry would say – bored now.
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@terry wrote:
I’ve just seen HP sauce’s new advert and am shocked that they have dared to film a bacon sandwich. The muslims are going to have a field day with this. :roll:
Do you have the following in your mind when you say that?
In which case I should also draw your attention to the real story.
http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/pcc-rejects-complaints-on-bacon-smell.html
The “outraged” Muslim part of the story, in common with many stories, just was straightforwardly not true.
People seem to love to create a PC bogeyman.
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@terry wrote:
I’ve just seen HP sauce’s new advert and am shocked that they have dared to film a bacon sandwich. The muslims are going to have a field day with this. :roll:
You don’t really believe that, do you?
You’re trying to wind us up.
@terry wrote:
…that I’m the only one who creates NEW threads? :roll:
and strangely desirable…
so I hear.
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