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Can’t see how the woman in this case bears no moral responsibility.
If you are in a pub and you wind someone up so much that they thump you, most people would say that the person who hit you shouldn’t have used violence. But they will say that you brought it on yourself. In other words they will have some sympathy for him and less sympathy for you because of the circumstances.
Somehow we seem to think that it is OK to play with people’s deepest emotions and then blame them when they eventually lash out. This is institutionalised in English law where the crime is the violence no matter the provocation. In some ways I can see how the law has to be like this to prevent people saying “he made me angry so I killed him”.
However it is difficult to see that a woman who apparently consciously set two men against each other is not partly responsible for the fact that the outcome was bad. She maybe didn’t quite want to have a murder on her conscience, but she must have thought it was fun to play with the feelings of two other living breathing human beings.
Laughing at their jealousy must have been fun but did they not deserve the same respect and care she would expect to be shown herself?
But no – she is not legally responsible for a man losing his life.
That’s OK then.
:?
By the way the internet thing is just a red herring here surely? You can be a sh*t to people in real life and be a sh*t on-line. Just cos it’s on-line doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter. It’s all about human decency folks. “What human decency?” I hear you cry.
Yeah. Exactly.
I’m not as drink as peepol think I am.
Drink to forget. Oh bugger that didn’t work.
@kent f OBE wrote:
All Indians have corner shops and work 24 hours a day ……and mostly come from Pakistan (Pakistan abbreviated is a regular descriptive of Indians) :lol:
You sure that’s not true?
Of course not there’s taxi drivers as well.
And doctors.
And builders.
And clothes designers.
And dinner ladies.
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@irish_lucy wrote:
I just got this e-mail, its funny cause its true :oops:
Irishness is…
Describing someone with longstanding, persistent and untreated psychosis as “a character”.
Saying “There’s definitely no recession here!” every time you see more
than … 5 people in a pubSaying “Ah but he’s very good to his mother” about some utter lunatic
TK Red lemonade and white pudding. Not together of course
Your ma or da greeting you with the phrase “d’ya know who’s dead?”
That mini heart attack you get if you go out and forget to turn off the immersion
You’re not drinking??? Are you on antibiotics?
Wallpaper on your school books
Being Grand!!
Boil everything in a huge pot for 3 hours
Being absolutely terrified of a wooden spoon.
Learning a language for 12 years and not being fluent
Flat 7UP heals all illnesses
Using Fùck off insted of Are you serious?
Calling Joe Duffy instead of the Guards
Does it make it any better if I say that most of those are also true for for the west of Scotland as well? Well pretty much all of them except for the Gaelic, currently regarded as an optional extra in Scotland.
Ah….white pudding.
8)
@wordsworth60 wrote:
Maybe we also need to change our attitude towards tax. Part of the resentment towards taxation comes from the partly-justified idea that rulers take tax from the rules to spend on golden castles, pomp and ego-enhancing standing armies.
Our modern welfare state delivers so much more yet we feel hard done by. I read somewhere that the happiest nations are the Scandinavian countries with their high tax/high care regimes. But rather than resent this, it seems the people feel ‘cared for’ (they have one word for it). Perhaps their famously parsimonious heads of state reflect this regard for the public good.
It might also explain why Cameron’s statement earlier this year that maybe we shouldn’t just measure economic success but happiness was such a one-off.
I agree – with the bit our attitude to tax of course, Cameron wanting to measure happiness is too much for me.
Tax is our money, spend on us, to allow our families and loved ones to receive healthcare (still cheap at half the price whatever they tell you) and all the other services of the state. Goods provided by the state are not an inferior form of economic activity – they’re a lot of the things that makes the biggest difference to our quality of life.
I’m proud and happy to pay tax and wouldn’t want to avoid it. The Scandinavian attitude where people really value what they receive (and apparently don’t try to avoid their tax that much) is far healthier than our dog eat dog approach to communal living.
Oh and most of Scandinavia is better off than the UK. So much for caring for people not being good business sense.
I think there was something dodgy about the whole thing.
You back up your data and your system at least every 24 hours, more frequently I would have thought if you were a bank.
How did they end up more than 24 hours behind, unless someone had deliberately corrupted something more than 24 hours previously, which suggests malice, either criminal or from a disgruntled insider?
Don’t think we should be too harsh on them. There are many near misses which big companies don’t publicise because it might harm their reputations. In any case, nobody needs one of the biggest banks in Britain suffering even greater losses. Especially since it was an unwise investment in a Dutch bank that brought them down and not their very respectable personal banking service.
And no I’m not an employee!
8)
Now the dust has settled, I think England had a good tournament.
Qualified top of their group, with three solid performances in the most cut throat competition in the world.
Holding Italy was a achievement even, although they were outclassed.
Not bad from a team in transition. Not bad from a team that everyone thought was so poor they wouldn’t do anything. Not bad for old Roy only being in charge a couple of weeks. They fought hard and didn’t give up.
And I’m not even English!
:)
Egypt’s system of law is already blended with sharia. In practice, many issues regarded in the West as central to sharia law in reality relate to local cultures. The wearing of the hijab for example is recognized as being largely cultural, as the Qur’an evidently requires male and female modesty, as opposed to a specific female garment.
In UK in theory we have a “Christian” common law in England and Wales and “Roman” law in Scotland but we don’t adopt Roman or biblical punishments.
There have been extreme interpretations of sharia such as the old Taliban regime in Afghanistan. I think that is unlikely to happen in Egypt as that is not how most Muslims interpret sharia law. A Muslim marriage for example is considered invalid without the permission of the woman, who can also insist on marrying a suitable male whether her male relatives agree or not.
With so many interpretations of what sharia law means and how it is adapted to operate in practice, I suspect the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
Don’t think Morsi is an extremist, but I agree that we really don’t know how it is going to turn out.
a little hard nugget….
