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Pic update.Me on holiday, my hairs growing and my legs are white.

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Trapper wrote:

Cheers trapper im no good with the editing stuff,lol.That was very kind.made me look so much better,

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Trapper wrote:

termy wrote:

Me Arsy

your what ??? :shock:

not a good pic,itl do for now.

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@rusty trawler wrote:

Mostley,i agree with what you have to say.What do you mean though fantastical refrences to sexual predelictations?Look if you mean me talking about things that disgust and abore me.I have talked about three people in this way.One was Jadey in which i was way off the mark,she did explane to me and the room that her brother told me these things,saying it was some sort of test,to see howe i would react.The other two im not willing to talk about on the boards.One person sed in the room that sexual consent should be dropped to the age of twelve.This incensed me,i was very angry and upset about this.The other one,someone sent me something that botherd me.Yes i havent went about things the right way,i should have but diddent.But you know im not the onley one.I wouldent have knon about these things if i hadent been told them.You seem very willing to add my name to that statment,but to be honest i dont care.It gives me a chance to clear things up.You dont seem willing to use anyone elses name but me and claires.

Hi moon,

I don’t want to use to the boards to engage in a tit for tat debate because i think it’s counterproductive and not particularly fair on you. But I’ll respond briefly.

I did mention both your name and Claire’s but only in direct response to things that have already been posted. The thread is primarily about you and is titled rosebabes stop booting moonshadow all the time, so I’m not guilty of putting your name in the public domain. But I relish no enjoyment in this and I also made the following statement:

“Incidentally, I only mention these names because they have otherwise been identified in this thread, there other culprits that I think are just as ‘guilty’.”

I do tend to go on a bit and I think you may have glossed over this. I don’t blame you because I understand what I sense to be your frustrations.

You mentioned my comment about ‘sexual predilections’ but it this wasn’t necessarily directed at you. Not that I’m suggesting that you’re blameless, but more so because I have the memory of a gnat and can’t remember specific instances in detail. I’ll gladly replace that statement by saying a lot of very insensitive things are said – and again I will say there are other culprits that I think are just as ‘guilty’.

I don’t know all the details and to be quite frank I don’t want to. From my vantage point it looks like a petty squabble gone horribly wrong. I’d hazard a guess a few others will share that observation. Again, I’m not necessarily blaming you as it takes at least two people to have a spat.

If I was to ask myself if I thought you are own worst enemy on JC, I would have to state that I do. But if I was to ask the supplementary question do I think you are treated fairly, then I would have to state I don’t think that you always are.

I hope you understand that I don’t intend you any malice and the last thing I would want is for my words to add to any frustrations you may currently have. Feel free to PM if you want further clarification, from experience I’m sure you know I’ll gladly talk to you.

No Rusty i diddent gloss over your post at all.I did say i agree with most of it.I thought it was a very fair and eloquent post about the situation.I dont think you mean me malice eithere.The fact your interested i have a poient of vew and understand people dont kick of in that way for nothing,makes me feel much better Rusty.It is very frustrating at times,when you know people that you need to help you in a situation blatentley take sides.Your right about petty squebles growing in to silly big sensles rows.I have chatted to you in pm before rusty and your always very polite and nice and im sure i will pm you again for your resonable and fair advice,Thanks Rusty.xx

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@kent f OBE wrote:

@jen_jen wrote:

OK I’m confused here…I didn’t see the Newsnight programme but as I understand it they didn’t actually name Lord McAlpine, they simply said a senior Tory figure…so why do they have to pay him compensation? Am I missing something? :?

Wasn’t Lord McA’s name exposed by Philip ( I am the best presenter on tele ) Scholfield on This Morning? Which I didn’t watch either ?

I dont think so kenty.I think he handed the priminister a list but you couldent see it.He dident say any names.

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@lucylocket wrote:

@moonshadow wrote:

@lucylocket wrote:

@moonshadow wrote:

Toy,she does the onley gay in the village stuff.To attract others in to making stuped coments about gay people.So that she can rant about how gay she is and gay rights ,that sort of thing lol.Perhaps it makes her feel “gayer”.Can be funny though i love all the wifies piping in with the girl on girl action stuff to get the mens attention lol.It is funny.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It obviously works moony cuz i always get ur attention even now on the boards and wen u pm me in fake names in the hope you can get me to talk dirty to you…………av another drink on me :wink:

Truly though lucey do you really think id get off on you talking dirty to me.i have explaned to you before ,im not gay.sheesh.And keep your white lightening love i can afford a good bottle of wine.That kinda stuff is for the onley kinda gay girlies you can attract.

Noo moon u thick get lol but u obviously think i wud get off by talkin 2 u and i attract all sorts ur an example…….keep the bottle love its well known u cant go without it lol #moonylovesme

Yes your right evryone knows i like a drink,so what?Iv not thought you would get off on me,for the simple reason im not gay and i dont think of you in that way.I know my problem lucy,and you know i try and deal with it the best way i can.Look your gay,we all know that.Why play the onley gay in the village act.I do love you to bits and did have some respect for you.But my lovley your begining to get boring.Yoyr far brighter than the dumbo act your putting on.

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@rusty trawler wrote:

I’m a relative newbie to Just Chat and I suspect there is a lot of historical context that I am unaware of with regards to the booting of the some of the aforementioned, so I don’t expect my argument to cover all the bases. It’s easy to note that the guides and hosts have an unenviable task – damned if they do, damned if they don’t – and although I don’t envy any of them, I do know that JC would be a hell of a lot worse without them: despite how entertaining, gregarious and downright weird many of you are, it’s way too easy for those few who are hell bent on making it a crappy experience for the majority of us to accomplish their task if we didn’t have the guides to ensure of modicum of decent behaviour.

However, that said, it does sometimes appear that the boot policy is rather arbitrary. If some are on a boot on site order for what appears to be a silly squabble between several participants, then I fail to understand why others whose contribution to JC can be relied upon to be sexist, racist or homophobic don’t appear to be similarly censured. I’m not condoning Moon or Claire, whilst calling someone ‘fat’ or ‘ugly’ or making what appears to be fantastical references to sexual predilections is reprehensible, it’s not on a par to denying the Holocaust. Incidentally, I only mention these names because they have otherwise been identified in this thread, there other culprits that I think are just as ‘guilty’.

I don’t know if the technology exists to permanently ban someone, I suspect it doesn’t and enterprising chatters will probably find a way to circumnavigate any obstacles, and this might be in part why people tend to get away with dreadful statements. Nonetheless, I have personally witnessed situations where guides have been present and certain names (I can’t say with any degree of certainty that the same person is behind the chat names on all these occasions) appear to get away with stuff. This may not be the case. It’s possible that there are processes in place that chatters are not privy to. But it is then perhaps understandable why some chatters suggest that favouritism exists or certain special allowances are permitted for some people.

I don’t entirely buy free speech as a counter-argument because it’s not without certain limitations, of which organisations tend to be aware of because it affects their bottom line. I don’t see how JC can be insulated from this.

Ultimately, I have to conclude that, for the most part, those that do get banned, gagged or censured in some other way, tend to have themselves to blame.

1. We can all be a little bit more thick-skinned and ignore the idiots and haters.

2. We can all accept that we have the right to offend and be offended, within reason. We don’t need to react to every slight in JC. We can stick pins in dolls, curse the person under our breath or simply laugh at their lack of social skills.

3. We could all remember that those that attack us rarely know anything about us.

4. There’s an iggy button that we all should use a little more. Failing everything else there is an off button on every computer and we can simply leave the world of JC for a bit.

I’m just as guilty as anyone else, show me an internet bully and watch my futile attempt to persuade him/her of the error of his ways. Sometimes rational thinking is the last thing that we tend to use.

On a lighter note I saw a silly joke in Saturday’s Guardian that tickled me:

Teacher: “Use the word fascinate in a sentence.”
Kid: “My coat has ten buttons but I can only fasten eight.” Ba boom!

Mostley,i agree with what you have to say.What do you mean though fantastical refrences to sexual predelictations?Look if you mean me talking about things that disgust and abore me.I have talked about three people in this way.One was Jadey in which i was way off the mark,she did explane to me and the room that her brother told me these things,saying it was some sort of test,to see howe i would react.The other two im not willing to talk about on the boards.One person sed in the room that sexual consent should be dropped to the age of twelve.This incensed me,i was very angry and upset about this.The other one,someone sent me something that botherd me.Yes i havent went about things the right way,i should have but diddent.But you know im not the onley one.I wouldent have knon about these things if i hadent been told them.You seem very willing to add my name to that statment,but to be honest i dont care.It gives me a chance to clear things up.You dont seem willing to use anyone elses name but me and claires.

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@lucylocket wrote:

@moonshadow wrote:

Toy,she does the onley gay in the village stuff.To attract others in to making stuped coments about gay people.So that she can rant about how gay she is and gay rights ,that sort of thing lol.Perhaps it makes her feel “gayer”.Can be funny though i love all the wifies piping in with the girl on girl action stuff to get the mens attention lol.It is funny.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It obviously works moony cuz i always get ur attention even now on the boards and wen u pm me in fake names in the hope you can get me to talk dirty to you…………av another drink on me :wink:

Truly though lucey do you really think id get off on you talking dirty to me.i have explaned to you before ,im not gay.sheesh.And keep your white lightening love i can afford a good bottle of wine.That kinda stuff is for the onley kinda gay girlies you can attract.

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@kent f OBE wrote:

(waves to Mooon)

Dear Santa

Please make me a proper lesbian :wink:

Lol

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