[mooosey88]

Ge wrote:

mooosey88 wrote:

And whether you agree with his views or not, we have Freedom if Speech, having Freedom of Speech basically means , somewhere, at some time you will offend someone ! hey that’s life ! And it’s worth it ! Its what our Great Grandads and many many more fought for ! Now it seems you can only have it if its popular !! Last ‘Night Shift tonight you’ll al be pleased to know lolol xxx

No we don’t, we don’t have freedom of speech at all. You live in cloud cukcoo land if you assume we do. Go and spout extreme views outside your local police station and see how far it gets you. You’ll be arrested for a breach of the peace faster than Alfie can google wikipedia.

EXACTLY !!!

[mooosey88]

is your real name Ge ?

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Ge wrote:

mooosey88 wrote:

I suggest you research this more, try you tube, he does have Muslim friends and supporters , I don’t actually get why you would say he hasn’t when its been so public ? yet your retort doesn’t address the extremism or the fact people expressing their personal views without inciting hatred are not automatically a white supremacist ? He may have broken a ban, in some form, it wasn’t news breaking the news had already been broken by the BBC did the judge say ” oh he’s trouble” more likely a government directive SHUT THIS GUY UP ! He was making a phone video on the steps of a courthouse, many camera crews were also filming, because he has a blog about the ‘idealism’ of Islam it means he gets locked up for a year ? And as you wished, probably won’t make it ? Disagreeing with the ‘ideology ‘ of Islam does not make you a Muslim hater, as such as disagreeing with the catholic church doesn’t make you hate all catholics, if it did the planet would be in a worse state than it is already. Brandishing labels on people is Dangerous ! I could do it all the time ” the old fella touched me bum ” PERVERT !! NO an 82 year old trying to be funny …. You can’t read 1 sentence in a paragraph and just decide its racist, its dangerous and brings shit where its not necessary

I don’t need to research anything, I am already familiar with Tommy Robinson (fake name) already, that’s what happens when the EDL march in your local area spewing their racist and islamophobic bile and led by Tommy Robinson (fake name). Tommy Robinson (fake name) is a low grade thug who has criminal convictions dating back to his early 20s, including for violence and who founded EDL with another man/men and who jumped ship when he realized in prison what the consequences are and his life was in real danger and who now pretends to be a “journalist” for his plankton facebook followers and who thinks he can break the law as and when he deems.

 

Ok Ge    could you provide some links to this please    out of interest ta x

[mooosey88]

And whether you agree with his views or not, we have Freedom if Speech, having Freedom of Speech basically means , somewhere, at some time you will offend someone !  hey  that’s life !  And it’s worth it !  Its what our Great Grandads and many many more fought for !  Now it seems you can only have it if its popular !!

Last ‘Night Shift tonight you’ll al be pleased to know lolol  xxx

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Also there was a court ordered blanket ban on media output about his arrest … Why ?

 

[mooosey88]

I suggest you research this more, try you tube, he does have Muslim  friends and supporters , I don’t actually get why you would say he hasn’t when its been so public ?  yet your retort doesn’t address the extremism or the fact people expressing their personal views without inciting hatred are not automatically a white supremacist ?  He may have broken a ban, in some form, it wasn’t news breaking  the news had already been broken by the BBC  did the judge say ” oh he’s trouble”  more likely a government directive   SHUT THIS GUY UP !  He was making a phone video on the steps of a courthouse, many camera crews were also filming, because he has a blog about the ‘idealism’ of Islam it means he gets locked up for a year ? And as you wished, probably won’t make it ?

Disagreeing with the ‘ideology ‘ of Islam does not make you a Muslim hater, as such as disagreeing with the catholic church doesn’t make you hate all catholics, if it did the planet would be in a worse state than it is already. Brandishing labels on people is Dangerous !   I could do it all the time ”  the old fella touched me bum ”  PERVERT !!  NO    an 82 year old trying to be funny ….  You can’t read 1 sentence in a paragraph and just decide its racist, its dangerous and brings shit where its not necessary

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Tommy was arrested for breach of the peace, filming outside the courthouse and talking to camera , he was on a suspended sentence because he travelled to the USA without a visa. As he was on a suspended sentence he was arrested and thrown in jail within 36 hours and a court order banned media coverage . Why ?  He has stated over and over he does not hate Muslims … he has many Muslim friends a lot of tem have been on camera with him many times What he hates is the ideology behind it. I think most sensible people realise ancient ‘rules / laws ‘ have little relevance in 2018, for example Scep is a believer in God yet he doesn’t take the bible word for word ( personally I think its a crock ) but hey, they are his opinions. Ge I don’t get how you can praise tommy for standing behind his beliefs and being open and honest about them and then wish him dead in jail.  He didn’t wreck any trial, the BBC had released the names before the trial.  Surely the word here is ‘ extremism’ on both sides. I also, like many many people who aren’t far left, am getting pished off with everyone being labelled a racist for holding different opinions. Inciting hatred towards any ‘group’ gays, muslims, Christians, Man U supporters, vegans , is wrong, but having free speech will always offend someone, its just a matter of how one  takes  that offence. And no Alfie, I’m not responding to a trolling thread as I don’t think it is, just a debate

[mooosey88]

Hello Morgan, I shall try and clarify for you. I posted on the thread ‘ incase you haven’t seen it’ before it turned into a row about racism and responded only to Ge’s post saying that something Scep said was racist, as that wasn’t the way I read Scep’s comments at all ( I believe he was referring to a possible criminal past and he didn’t mention the fact the ‘hero’ was non white) although having read it through again I can see why Ge thought there was an element of racism in it, though I still believe it was not intended to be nor delivered that way, that’s just my opinion and Ge is entitled to his. I stopped posting on that thread when you popped up trying once again to inflame the situation and turn it into another pissing contest, waving your ‘Graphgate ‘ flag and smirking.  Please don’t ask me to ‘explain’ or ‘elaborate’ on anything I have said on this post to you,  as I won’t be doing so and I wouldn’t want you to feel offended by me ignoring your posts.

Have a lovely evening

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Ge   I do not feel I have been apart of any mob handed act in here, I say what I think,,,  end of,  yes Hugs annoys the crap outta me at times and I have replied, normally when he accuses me of stupid  things . He doesn’t know me, we’ve never had a conversation.  I witness Thread after thread of ‘ Troll accusations’  its naïve … we probably have all had some sort of negative shyte from this place, but Hugs doesn’t listen to any advice… for months non trolls have tried to steer him away for his own piece of mind  I would never  belittle anyone for caring for elderly parents  I do it !!  but he brings a lot of crap on himself for behaving like a teenager who has been slighted   it hurts yes   but you aren’t 15 anymore ….

anyway  work calls  … sigh ….  night

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And yes I’m on nights     hate them.  Not the work but screws my clock up for a week at least

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