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I’m just going to ignore Scep as he is very rude….
If it’s the same case, which took place in Wakefield the transgender person in question admitted to sexual assault (sexually touching in this case) in prison, but admitted rape on two counts before going to prison. The person also has been charged previously with paedophilia , they apparantly identify as a woman but have not had surgery.
”So – leaving aside the petty insults – the argument is that transphobia and homophobia are caused by the propaganda of the Roman Catholic Church, or maybe by the whole of the Establishment.”
Erm… No. Wrong again. No one said that. We were discussing the indoctrination by the Roman Catholic Church and it’s negative messages that bombarded it’s followers for years whilst covering up the activities of its priests ( as brought up by Sophie) as part of the reason for peoples antiquated misjudgements of people, when you went off on your tangent.
Their was no argument until you made one.
Strikes me as a piss-poor argument, and no wonder the insults flow when the argument is challenged.”
Sorry.This makes no sense at all.
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Another Trans song… but tbf, in my opinion a bloody awful song …..
The first part of my post was directed to Ge, thanking him for his comment.
The brand new paragraph was directed to anyone who was taking part in this discussion,
Phew, I thought I’d missed something.
So I was right – you were asking Gerry a question, and Gerry was demanding that I ansdwer it.
duh.
No you are completely wrong and I suspect you know you are. Gerry did’nt demand you answer my post nor did I , he merely pointed out that you didn’t follow the thread of posts, most uncommon for you because you couldn’t wait to spout off your sermon to him.I also know that you realise that you completely screwed it up because otherwise why would you be so rude ?
”The second part of your question, directed to all, was of no interest to me, so I didn’t answer it, and I’m not answering it”
. LOLOL talk about spitting the dummy out ! Rude and condescending, nothing new there and I’m certainly not upset by it, as I’d rather converse with people on a level, I’ve never been one to sit and nod to some self proclaimed academic, so elevated in status that a perfectly normal question on a topic people are discussing is dis-interesting to him ….. lol Whats up ? did the question not interest you because I asked it ? Or because it didn’t give much leeway to spin it into an elaborate soliloquy ?
Grow up
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”What bothers me mostly here however or I should say in rooms..if I respect your decision to be ..act..use names and numbers and may be comfortable in your form I am accepting..considerate..not rude.. why is it then..I can think of one in f3..constantly calling me..other Americans here..Fakes.. is that not calling the kettle black? Rude..not nice… umm what you call that?
”Linda hi x , If I’m reading you correctly…. are you saying that people can be accepting of people, whatever walk of life they choose? yet in the rooms, namely room 3 there are some calling you fake etc ? Well its pretty pointless posing that question here on the boards as you won’t get an answer, its because of people like those you mention that I rarely go in room.
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”Was that a question to me, demanding an answer form me??”
I was NOT demanding an answer from anyone thank you very much, I was simply trying to get back to the subject matter as you seemed to have got caught up in your own strange interpretation of what was being discussed and went off on a very long, extended, tangent.
”If you look at it carefully, the Establishment isn’t united in that conspiracy, if it’s united at all. There is such a thing as the Establishment, and they have their own way of dealing with things and accepting people into their ranks.”
Unfortunately you took the ‘establishment’ completely out of context from previous posts, not sure if you read them all but the term was used by Sophie meaning ‘the catholic church’ ( which she quite clearly pointed out ) not the ‘establishment’ as in upper classes and politicians, nothing of that establishment had been mentioned in context with the subject matter, Ge, I assume, was using the term in context with Sophies post.
Don’t worry about answering my questions, it’s really not that important…..
The first part of my post was directed to Ge, thanking him for his comment.
The brand new paragraph was directed to anyone who was taking part in this discussion, loosely based on Ruthless’ post which you commented on Scep, nothing was personally aimed at anyone until you made it so Scep. You could have said ” I disagree because etc”, however ”I think your’e wrong Ge” was, in my opinion, deliberately done to draw him out…. to nudge him into getting into a drawn out battle so you can do what you do…. and again, in my opinion, someone saying I think you talk bullshit is hardly vile personal abuse, in fact compared to some stuff written on here its quite mild and tame, your’e a man of the world, I doubt it upset you !! Can’t see why you need to act like a victim when you wanted a reaction from Ge and probably knew what the reaction would be…..
Also, no clue as to why you would suggest a debate about it with Ge on a different thread ? You and He do not see eye to eye and that would never happen, was that slipped in to make you look reasonable ? Bit pointless, in my opinion…..Thanks Ge, yea, the main characters mentioned in the song, were real trans / gender fluid people, well known for frequenting Andy Warhol’s club, The Factory.
On a slightly different note, relating to Ruthless’ post, although I see no need for the silly ‘IT’ descriptions, we all know Ruthless likes to be shocking….. however, if someone goes to a gay bar, or ‘gender fluid’ bar, club, etc etc, as a straight person, they should be aware all may not be quite what it seems and in my opinion have no right to feel ‘offended’ if they mistake someone for the wrong gender, but what if its a ‘ straight’ pub, club etc, ( I’ve put straight as opposed to ‘normal’ as not to offend those of us who feel what ever floats your boat is normal for you , maybe non specific bar would be a better description, anyway I digress…) So your’e in a ‘non specific’ bar, club, etc and you meet someone you fancy…. come the end of the night and its getting down to the nitty gritty ( or maybe after several dates even ), do you have the right to be well pissed off that the person you have invested time and possibly money in, turns out to be the opposite gender to what you thought and they hadn’t disclosed it ? I mean it’s ok not to fancy / be interested physically, in people of the same sex as you isn’t it ? Or is it ? ?
I’ll try again….
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