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”Yes, entirely my adaptation and opinion, but precious little to do with Trump. I don’t even mention Trump.”
Precious little to do with Trump ? Grow up Scep. The cartoon penned by Matt Groening in 1991 ( which seems to have been removed) was a piss take of the oath of alligience, USA, and it was posted on the thread,’ Trump Glorious Trump ‘ …. Are you seriously going to say it was not misleading as you didn’t mention Trump by name ? …At least admit when youv’e cocked up rather than trying to wriggle off the hook…. Tsk Poor show
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Well they got it wrong when they predicted a ‘Remain’ landslide win on The Referendum, as did the BBC… and all its clever economic and political experts and pundits. The British people turned out in force to vote ( for once) they felt so strongly about it, on both sides, people would be stupid to assume they’ve changed their minds now, in fact I’d go so far as to say, because of the behaviour of The EU since the result possibly quite a few more want no part of their bullying cartel, and as Ge pointed out, Armageddon, promised by the Remain ‘experts’ didn’t happen ? so maybe a few more would be brave enough to risk running our own country… Again.
The new voters who’ve come onto the register since the referendum – people who were 16 and 17 at that time – want to remain by 7 to 1.
Scraping the barrel here !! No lets wait till the 12 year old’s are of age, after all its their future too. I have never ever heard anyone with the opinion that the EU are bending over backwards to help ? Not even staunch remainers ! What you just can’t comprehend is that many many people voted’ out’ on the principals of it all. The EU is a bully, it is not what we signed up for, it is a train crash waiting to happen, and when it does all go tits up we’ll be glad we got out when we did. It is defunct. They desperate for us not to leave, even offering now to extend the process, not to make it easier for us out of the kindness of their hearts lol How naive ! And quite frankly who cares what some confused woman from Lithuania thinks ? No one is saying that after Brexit it will all be roses and rainbows, but the majority of the people of this country voted to go for it !!
Sticking a line from newspaper reports in here and there such as ” women from Liverpool forced into prostitution because of universal credit” which, btw sounds so ridiculous its almost funny, does not make your ‘reasoned argument’ category I’m afraid.
I’m going to use a phrase Ge used to you, which I have tried very often to re-iterate to no avail….
It is just not statistically possible that everyone else is stupid, except for you.
It’s not a rant at all…. It is my opinion that you telling everyone how good they had it is ridiculous. Stop putting words in my mouth AGAIN.
”A big majority of Labour voters voted not to leave – that included the majority of Liverpool and Manchester. They were not the chocc mocca crowd, but people concerned with their jobs, health and education.”
TALK ABOUT GENERALISATIONS !! So everyone from Manchester and Liverpool can’t afford a chocca mocca crappe ? they are all on benefits or working as bin men are they ? You are so out of touch.
Are only women from Liverpool forced into prostitution ? and only by Universal Credit ? Don’t be absurd.
”That’s why we need a Labour government in power which is committed to helping the poorest, rather than the Blairite government which was comfortable with people getting rich.”
No one is talking about who to vote for, my response was to your very misleading post showing people now still wanting Brexit at 5 % . Anyone with any commonsense knew that any transition wouldn’t be without turmoil and uncertainty, but, at the time of that ‘disgraceful’ referendum most of the people of this country decided to take a chance on running our own country to hopefully provide a better future for our children than be dictated to by some retired banker no one has ever heard of and was not democratically elected. We certainly won’t be the last to leave the EU, and we will be glad we did when we did. The EU are bullies, it isn’t what we signed up for, the poorer countries are thrown under the bus, have hundreds of thousands of refugees living like animals are are fined if they refuse more. The GDP may be better if the remoaners got on board and weren’t constantly preaching doom and gloom . I seriously doubt the referendum would be a disgrace if the result had been remain. The people voted out, they are not all dim witted and not able to comprehend what it entails as you seem to think they are. We are leaving the EU, for better or for worse, better get used to it. Not being drawn into anymore, despite how much you mention Liverpool.
The stats on the number of people needing to use food banks, which shot up in 2013-2014 and has grown steadily since would suggest not all were ‘thriving’
”It’s not a poll, not BBC or anyone else. Just the expression of frustration from a Remainer about the almighty mess we’re getting in.”
Oh right my apologies, so its just some random bloke moaning, sorry but I think the #Panorama was very misleading, as was the Matt Groening cartoon on the Trump thread which had nothing to do with Trump, just another random’s opinion….. tsk
”The mess is caused by us being a badly divided nation. Nothing to do with the EU, which is just defending itself as an important member leaves.”
Agree about us being a divided nation TOTALLY disagree that it has nothing to do with the EU, that’s just a ridiculous statement. Even the words defending itself because an important member leaves sounds so wrong. Leaving, not attacking. Defending itself against what ? As I said the fear that if we leave and succeed the EU is on melt down. Their behaviour has been atrocious from the minute the referendum result came in, scaremongering and threats because we want to leave the club. And when the EU goes into melt down their big fat juicy money for nothing but bullshit bureaucracy salaries go too.
” a trading club within which we’ve thrived,”
Really ? Well maybe you did, tell that to all the people on disability benefits, sick benefits that were cut by half !! Tell that to the people in government funded care homes that got closed, tell that to the NHS, the people sleeping rough, the list is endless…
People voted leave , and not just northern people who don’t know better as the middle class would like to believe, people from all over the country because they are sick of being dictated to by someone they’ve not heard of or seen and having to pay millions for the benefit of it. People have to go to work and earn a wage to keep their families and pay their debts, they don’t have time to sit around reading every paper and moaning on social media about Brexit, whilst sipping a chocca mocca skinny goats milk crappe with caramel and eating a seaweed sandwich on rye with pumpkin seeds ,pushing their bi-focals up there nose and feeling superior because they are thriving and posting clever jibes.
All Labour want is to BE IN POWER, so at their conference it was bandied about that ‘what if we promise another referendum ? ‘ Haha, they aren’t quite that stupid though, just because people are pissed off with the way Brexit has been handled doesn’t mean they would change their vote, and what about the voters who have now seen that it wasn’t the apocalyptic end of Britain that was promised by remainers ?
Nice of the Government to acknowledge they swindled sick people on benefits out of £5000 EACH ! That’s just one we know about ! Thriving …. lol
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Tbf The Bbc has pretty much lost all credibility with it’s biased reporting on various issues, were do these figures come from? a poll ? no one asked me or anyone I know. As someone who moves about and works in the community a lot I hear lots of discussion about this issue and I believe the pro brexit figures are much higher than 5% lol. In fact quite a lot of people are getting mighty peed off at the constant obstacles and pettiness coming from Remainers and The EU, we voted out as a country and we should be getting out without all this crap, how could we have known what poor losers they would turn out to be ? Yes, it was a leap in the dark to some extent, and yes it hasn’t gone the way people voting out had thought, partly because of certain factions being deliberately unwilling to compromise on any tiny detail, mind you it hasn’t gone the way the Remain campaign predicted either!! Lets not also forget that within a month of a ‘Leave’ result the whole country was going to grind to a halt !
I listened to an interview with Roger Daltry today, who is now a successful cattle farmer, he was articulate and well informed on many subjects, his thoughts on Brexit he kept quite succinct but pointed out that many friends and colleagues he knows were ‘ quiet brexiteers’ as it wasn’t very left wing trendy lol. He also pointed out that The EU Court of Auditors have not signed off on the EU books for over 20 years !!! Hmmm bet there’s a few mill missing here and there when they do ! Maybe they could donate it to Italy or Greece !! (of course that could be fake news….lol )
His feelings do reflect my own feelings to some extent. Not ANTI EUROPE at all merely anti The Eu and their despicable undemocratic politics, faceless bureaucrats dictating laws, they are terrified that if the UK make a success of leaving and eventually flourish the EU will disintegrate, with countries leaving faster than Usain Bolt with a touch of bubble bottom.
As I’ve said before I’m not particularly ‘political’ and far from an expert, I don’t sit at home dredging through all content of news reports , facts ( haha) and figures. It is just my opinion
Bit of your own opinion and adaptation is it ? Matt Groening penned that in 1991, when George H W Bush (senior) was in office…. nothing to do with Trump !
I’d rather eat my own foot thanks !
If Someones ptivate information has been put through a thread,give the guide the tools,to be abel to remove it immediatly.Whats the point of having guides if they cant help the posters.Same in the chat room,the vile abuse of putting peoples personal information,peoples photos taken from other sites,threts.People should be banned by ip for that sort of thing.Martin if you had anything about you,you would so something about it.So many of the regular chatters have left.
Message from my friend sarah she says
morg posted up my nieces wedding venue
He also posted my home address address
morg has threatened my son about tampering with his breaks
he has circulated pics of me
yet I get banned?
It wasn’t Jamie who posted “ message from my friend Sarah” it was Justin
Presumed Morg or ( The Ambassador of Truth) has also been banned , I assume for flooding ! No one believed the silly been sent down thread he wrote using someone else’s account surely ?
Hugs, it’s been lovely here last few days, the other fella is on a break , been no spamming or flooding or trolling ! No accusations or paranoia hmmmm….. but it will all start up again so I’d deffo stick to your new place if I were you….. Yep. You stay right there !!
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