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@HostLD wrote:

I abhor cruelty to animals, she even stroked it before shutting it in how sick! :x

I’m not an aggressive person but when it comes to animal cruelty I could quite easily dish out the same cruelty to the perpetrator as they do to the animal and I wouldn’t bat an eyelid or feel any guilt or remorse.

I think this “woman” should be shoved in a wheelie bin and made to sit in her own shyte for 16 hours.

Sadly though, it won’t happen – this “woman” is classed as human and has rights. I beg to differ.

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I have never knocked anyone achievements, and im a complete study addict, and have done alot of training in jobs, and at home,colleges etc apart from my initial education at school. Personally i have always found training of any sort extremely valuable and indeed necessary, the same as education is for kids. But that wasnt my arguement, and i was referring to many of your posts panda not just that one. But i dont think you got the point i was making, and im going off topic so lets leave it there.

It’s called freedom of speech, debating, arguing a point. I think I am allowed to do that just like you and anyone else on here is.

Ok? :D

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@minim wrote:

What I was saying was that they have to be able to apply the book learning, in applied ways, for the knowledge to stick!

Rote learning is no use at all without practical application. And as for teachers…. what is the old adage, those that can do, those that can’t teach.

Rote learning is quick memorization for the purposes of learning lines for a play, song etc.

A doctor, teacher or engineer wouldn’t use that style of learning – it would be impossible to pass their exams if they did. And they gain valuable practicable experience whilst training with work placements.

Seems like one of life’s failures taught you to fail spectacularly well!

If I was you, I’d stop digging now.

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@melody wrote:

So in the few short weeks that the two toff-boys have been in charge of the country they have or plan to:

scrapped new school builds

scrapped the building of a hospital and begun to ‘overhaul’ the nhs to cut costs

vowed to make schools into academies… aka privatise them meaning that OFSTED standards will no longer apply

Stopped funding for the rights project which helps ppl appeal against wromg benefits decisions

raised VAT

scrapped several benefits

frozen child benefits……

need I go on???

Oh and let us not forget the millions in foreign aid pledged to help other countries which would basically wipe out our own domestic debts…

SOOOOO still glad you voted?

So how would you fix the £4 trillion debt and spending 30% more than you get via taxation?
It’s always the same after a Labour government, higher unemployment and a wrecked economy, you’d think people would have sussed this by now.

Ermmm i would start by hitting the rich harder and leaving the those already on the poverty line alone….
perhaps the overseas aid might wipe out a bit of it… charity starts at home…
I was a child of the 80s, I grew up with Maggie at the helm, I remember my Dad fighting for his rights on a picket line and Maggie cancelling my milk at school … I have seen mass industry in the north east closed… then labour came along, the NHS went from strength to strength, waiting times slashed, education for all, women back into work through child care subsidies,- women in work… vital for the economy of a country like ours with an aged and dependant population greater than the working ages… then Clegg and his other eton pal come along and pull the plug, which will leave many woman with no option but to stay at home to raise their kids because tax credits are going to be abolished, the very money that allows working women to get help with childcare costs…

Perhaps clegg and doofus might start by cutting their own salaries to that of someone with an equally important role in society say perhaps a paramedic? That would save a few grand!

I want my children to be educated to a standard with a national curriculum and where English is the primary language…. academies are just an excuse for the local enterprises to come in and set their own curriculum if they are forking out for it… does that mean in highly ethnic areas the children will be taught under Islamic laws for example? Another step to stamping out the English culture…. don’t get me started….

I apologise for any typing errors… the screen is jumping and I cannot see what I have typed without scrolling back

I wasnt going to split hairs but feck it

Maggie Thatcher ended free school milk in 1971- how, as a child of the 80’s, can yu remember this?

I was at infant school from 1979 onwards and we had free school milk.

I think it was ended in 1971 for over 7s so a child of the 80s would still have received it.

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@gazlan wrote:

:shock: I thought it was just pete :D

That Pete had a cheek, (or two) didn’t he?
:D

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@minim wrote:

most doctors that come onto the wards are practically useless until they get experience on the job panda. Same goes for all the other jobs you mention. They do a certain amount of time in university studying before they let them loose on the wards, and then they start their real learning. As for vets, engineers etc etc. The same thing applies. They have to work on the job and learn as they go along. And….most of the occupations you list take years before they are given free rein in their chosen environment. They are effectively apprentices AFTER they have done some book learning.

I rest my case :wink:

I don’t think you have a case to rest.

That “book learning” gives them essential knowledge and skills to be appointed the job in the first place – putting that knowledge into practice happens on the job where gaining experience takes place.

Or would you rather your doctor just walked in off the street with no prior medical knowledge and learnt everything from scratch whilst on the job?

As for teachers, they teach whilst they are training so when they qualify, they are already experienced.

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@panda12 wrote:

I still think that academic achievement is ok, but it proves nothing except that you can take in information and regurgitate it in a format that gets you brownie points.

Yeah of course, acadenic achievement is crap, isn’t it? I mean doctors, brain surgeons, teachers, vets, engineers etc etc are just born, aren’t they?

They don’t do any study at all, do they? #-o

why do you do that panda ? take a post and totally twist it to suit you so you can go on the attack on someone elses opinions. I believe mims said academic achievement is ok not crap, and she said they can take in and regurgitate information (isnt that saying they study? ) #-o

…academic achievement is ok, but it proves nothing except that you can take in information and regurgitate it in a format that gets you brownie points

That’s what was actually said. So your doctor studied for 6 yeats just to get brownie points? No desire to actually care about people’s health, then? :roll:

And I studied for four years to become a teacher just so I could score brownie points, huh?

If studying isn’t someone’s thing then fine but don’t knock the academic achievements of others, achievements from which you benefit in one way or another.

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I still think that academic achievement is ok, but it proves nothing except that you can take in information and regurgitate it in a format that gets you brownie points.

Yeah of course, acadenic achievement is crap, isn’t it? I mean doctors, brain surgeons, teachers, vets, engineers etc etc are just born, aren’t they?

They don’t do any study at all, do they? #-o

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@cosy.m wrote:

I would like to confirm,no i dont know a mrs teapot,but welcome,and i hope the pair of us can let off steam sometimes :D

I heard you two had a row. It had been brewing for some time and you were both stewing on things. Crying over spilt milk but someone was stirring things.

You both needed a bit of sweetening up but in the end it was just a storm in a tea cup. :lol:

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