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@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
White americans are the descendants of immirgants and colonists- Spanish, Irish, English etc
White americans are indigenous to America because they were born there , just like indigenous black and Asians Britons who were born here are indigenous to this country- funny old world innit
Also means that someone could be indigenous to more than one country. We are decendants to the whole planetary countries of earth.
When the BNP or david duke, or blair for that matter, talk about indigenous peoples, they refer to the indigenous peoples like them. The indigenous people who believe in what we stand for…
Liberte, Egalite et Fraternite no doubt- So we are all “descendants to the whole planetary countries of earth”- thats very utopian and smacks of open borders, multi cultural, lets all live together- so unlike you- we are all one people!
Indigenous to the BNP means white and policies for indigenous people means discriminatory policies for white people
@wildwolf nw wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Why do you bother, Emma? A primary school kid could debate better than you. Your arguments are just idiotic. You still can’t see the sheer stupidity of your comment that we are all nazis, something that you still haven’t been able to prove since your definitions undermine your own case. Surely you must be pretending to be a moron because you make Jade Goody look like Einstein.
didnt america very nearly wipe out the native americans. the british empire enslaveing half the world, didnt the british invent the concentration camp dureing the boar war. etc etc. countless cases through out history of groups of people being brought to the point of extincsion by another group, yet because the “nazies” lost their campaighn against whom they focused their attentions, the world now points and says look nazism bad karma that man :roll: whilst conveniantly forgeting there own historys. oh, well i guess to the victors goes the spoils of war as well as the abilty to write history as they see fit. its a bit like when the conservatives win the next election, im sure the labour party will all be villafied just because tony blair is a complete toser.
The British, French and Spanish wiped out half the indigenous native population during the 1600 and 1700’s- following independence in 1775, the white American then carried on and wiped the other half out.
Read “Bury my heart at Wounded Knee” for a full understanding of the systematic, state led, genocide of a native people. Indeed wild, to the victors go the spoils of war- the endemic rape and murder of German civilians by advancing Russian armies in 1945, the carpet bombing of German cities in 1945 etc etc are, with occasional exceptions, are ignored (“collateral damage” in todays language)- does the end always justify the means then?
@emmalush wrote:
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
She even mentions David Duke (former head of the KKK) to support her “argument” that far-right groups only support the rights of indigenous populations. So this must mean that the KKK is made up of native americans then.
Where do the white americans come from, indigenously that is?
White americans are the descendants of immirgants and colonists- Spanish, Irish, English etc
White americans are indigenous to America because they were born there , just like indigenous black and Asians Britons who were born here are indigenous to this country- funny old world innit
Whereabouts in Kos Lucky?
@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
This government is pouring money into the NHS like it’s never been poured in before.
Tony Blair and Co. can’t understand why people are complaining.Vote Tory because you can obviously afford BUPA after the tax cuts. :roll:
Perhaps not the thread for an NHS debate but continued changes, new ways of working, targets, initiatives, a new wage structure, new GP contracts and new Out of Hours services, etc etc etc has meant little of this massive increase in investment has gone on front line services- the GP contract changes alone cost an extra (unexpected) £300 million pounds.
After 20 years, I am getting to the stage where a change of employment into the private sector is looking very attractive.
I cannot agree Pikey with the principle of 1 patient benefitting at the cost of £10,000 means 100 patient missing out on treatment costing £100 and therefore unfair, so we withdraw the treatment to the 1, to ensure treatment to the 100
If that were true, we would shut all ICU departments, CCU departments, in fact any intensive treatment centres and let these people die as the cost per patient, standard and length of care and nurse/patient ration is vastly inflated compared to a normal standard hospital admission.
If the pot is finite, then the decision should at least be clinical and not financial
Maybe, Pikey there is some fact in recognising that there can never and will never be enough money in the pot to fund every treatment for every illness.
BUT, as someone who works in the health service, dont kid yourself that any decisions made upon who receives what is based on anything other than financial rationale. Patient outcome and patient benefit are not a consideration.
S’done!
Hans across the sea!
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Make me feel old, why dont ya
In their day they were one of the rawest n most forceful live acts around- saw ’em at the infamous Monsters of Rock at Castle Donington and they were simply awesome
Saw ’em a couple of years later at Gateshead n they were bloated on the hype that followed Apetite for Destruction
Would be interesting to know though if the old gang has got back together rather than just Axl n the band name
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
I read that link Emma.
Are you trying to tell us that the poor down troden natives of Barking-Dagenham have been trying to get a housing estate built for 30 years with no avail but that eh presto, the BNP steps in and gets it sorted in 3 weeks?
I am sure even you can see the flaws in that reasoning.
Maybe floors is all they’ve got Lamby
Funny how the BNP website states the BNP “in power” in Barking- really, I thought the Labour party had control of the council- must have been a BNP mistake then
@Lambrini Girl wrote:
I read that link Emma.
Are you trying to tell us that the poor down troden natives of Barking-Dagenham have been trying to get a housing estate built for 30 years with no avail but that eh presto, the BNP steps in and gets it sorted in 3 weeks?
I am sure even you can see the flaws in that reasoning.
Maybe floors is all they’ve got Lamby
Funny how the BNP website states the BNP “in power” in Barking- really, I thought the Labour party had control of the council- must have been a BNP mistake then
