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21 June, 2007 at 7:19 pm #274224
@vector wrote:
hi new here,i feel women are just as guilty in unprotected sex and i worry about my teenage daughter who has a latex allergy,are there other options
Vector, can I just say I genuinely had no idea this was even a problem and almost thought your post somewhat tongue in cheek til I read Mary’s reply.
Goes to show you learn something new every day
21 June, 2007 at 7:18 pm #274223Part of my point was the individual responsibility (not just in cervical cancers) and how much, in a health service with a limited budget, do we accept that we can be unaccounatble for our actions in the knowledge that the NHS will at least try to cure us? And how much should the individual be liable for their actions- if the NHS wasnt free at source, and we had to pay for our treatment, perhaps we would change the way we behaved?
Millions of people take a white stick out of a packet (on which there is a warning saying it can kill you) and smoke it- the majority of lung cancers are related to smoking yet we accept the NHS role in treating and curing where we possible those with lung cancer but this is an almost wholly preventable disease (again Mary, not ALL lung cancers are related to smoking but most are)
And then when you stop and think, the list grows.
And yes, I do know what its like to lose someone with cancer- Between Feb and April this year I watched my mum die of cancer and spent the last two days by her side as she chain stoked her way to a better place.
It is interesting to note that many primary care trusts and hospital trusts now withold certain operations if the patient is considered clinically obese and the result of the operation would be nullified by the patients lifestyle.
As for my other main point- PB picked it up. It has to start somewhere, the ascent from the moral abyss into which we have fallen, and by injecting teenage girls with something which they will be told prevents them from cervical cancers caused by the reasons I mentioned just seems to be the wrong end of the looking glass
21 June, 2007 at 6:01 am #176587Fancy a pluck?
21 June, 2007 at 5:59 am #273878@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
Clearly a by-product is the theory of an “afterlife” and the reassurance this gives people but the fundamental element of religion is the omnipotent being which dictates our every action.
Correct, its a blag that people who dont know any better, just go along with it, juuuusst incase another human might be right.
Of course, if they are, we’ll all recieve it, even if we dont believe.
You hope Emma but supposing they are right n there is the other option of eternal damnation? Bit late to repent once you’ve kicked the bucket
Thats why no matter how much of a disbeliever someone is they will still have a religious service when they die
21 June, 2007 at 5:55 am #273740@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
Of course the other option is proportional representation- that way no one ever wins
I disagree. If the million or so BNP voters gained proportional representation, then they’ll have, well, representation…
Maybe we should divide the country up so that we all live in areas with representation. We’d all have better lives.
Last weeks This Week, the opinion is that society must help the black population get more political and social representation, regardless of whether the public want it.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_week/default.stmIf social engineering is the way forward, then we should give white people a fairer say, like make Nick Griffin an MP, and allow him and the BNP the right to use taxes to make white people happier.
But Nick Griffin doesnt speak for all white people, just as Keith Vaz doesnt speak for all British indians in Leicester South. So how could we resolve that?
And thats why no one wins- cos there is no majority
Lets say we put all those who voted BNP in one area of the country and said “you have to become self sufficient”- supposing it was Cumbria or Northumberland- great countryside but not much in terms of living off the land!!
And how would letting the BNP raise taxes make white people happier? Only 8% of people vote BNP- so the remaining 92% would be unhappy and the majority of that 92% are white!
However I am willing to wager that within the next 18 months, the BNP will lose the voluntary repatriation section of their constitution (with the usual double speak that accompanies ANY political parties change of direction) as they re invent themselves
20 June, 2007 at 9:48 pm #273738It was in the 1970’s that Lord Hailsham first coined the phrase “elective dictatorship” regarding the UK electoral system
Of course the other option is proportional representation- that way no one ever wins
20 June, 2007 at 9:45 pm #274043Nah Chubbs did at the Grimsby auditorium about 2 years ago, when I was heckling him (“you fat bast/ard”)
20 June, 2007 at 6:48 pm #274187@hermangrrrman! wrote:
Sorry emmalush, couldnt be bothered reading ur waffling post, however, i read the title and thought of an easy solution.
Get em out :lol: :DI agree Hermann n start with cleansing Liverpool of all those with Irish descent :wink: We dont want em feeling left out do we
20 June, 2007 at 6:46 pm #27404120 June, 2007 at 6:45 pm #274019Really shows how little you read my posts or understand what I put
I dont give a flying feck if anyone objects to Salman Rushdie’s knighthood- it is the soverign head of states choice.
I could think of a thousand better and more worthy candidates but if the queen says he can have one, then let him have it.
After all, why worry about a few iranian demonstrators throwing eggs when we’ve engineered the deaths of 150,000 iraqis over the border
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