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6 February, 2007 at 7:50 am #258982
@emmalush wrote:
Frantic woman on Talksport right now telling us the police have cordened off a street in Liverpool. She describes it as a police state scenario, martial law.
“Anything that is in public domain is for public consumption- anything else stays confidential. I would point out that training doesn’t always mean physical- training and preparedness can take many other forms (google “emergency planning” n see what ya get)-“
No, i meant, what medical training have you recieved that you dont normally get, to do with a bird flu disaster? SPELL IT OUT?
Again Emma, you jump to a conclusion hun- training for bird flu doesn’t just include medical training- it includes patient management, patient flow, emergency planning, support services etc etc.
I have never said I am medically trained in anything (can’t stand the sight of blood) :D
Why does the police cordoning off a street suggest we live in a police state- Anyone remember the chap in Lincoln about 15 years ago who had his face ripped off by 2 american pitbulls? That was my street (used to see the dogs everyday)- the police cordoned the whole street off and we had armed response walking up and down with automatic MG’s- why does that make us a police state? It seems common sense to me
5 February, 2007 at 10:17 pm #258980@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
[No Emma, it teaches us how to put our lives on the line, with as minimal a risk as possible, to ensure those who need the emergency services will receive some form of assistance, however limited.
Can you give us the basic teachings you recieved?
Anything that is in public domain is for public consumption- anything else stays confidential. I would point out that training doesn’t always mean physical- training and preparedness can take many other forms (google “emergency planning” n see what ya get)-
5 February, 2007 at 7:42 pm #258418Emma
I havent “begun to see the light”- Ive always been enlightened
The difference is, I wouldnt have chosen to make this thread an attack on Islam or Muslim children- there are examples daily of PCness gone mad in schools- I don’t blame Islam, multiculturalism or the child for that.
You use sensationalist language, higlighted in red to single out specific Islamic points, to make a point about political correctness
5 February, 2007 at 7:37 pm #258978@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
You don’t- in fact the public sector will bear the brunt of much of a pandemic as they are daily in contact with people who are ill, vulnerable or at risk. There nothing you can do except hope it doesnt happen to you
Ok, so this training that you’ve been doing over the last 18 months has been a waste of time?
No Emma, it teaches us how to put our lives on the line, with as minimal a risk as possible, to ensure those who need the emergency services will receive some form of assistance, however limited.
I go back to what I said though, ultimately you can take all the precautions you like, there is still a chance you will contract it so you the final piece of protection is hope and luck.
5 February, 2007 at 2:20 pm #258907I agree that the playing field should be level
No names, of either party, should be published unless proven guilty
No sexual history of either party should be admissable in court.My point, laboured as it was, is that both scenarios (rape and child abuse) tend to rely on circumstantial evidence (one word against another) with little else. Child abuse is a very emotive subject but one which should be discussed none the less
A defence lawyer is not interested in innocence or guilt but simply interested in seeing “justice” (ie every box ticked, every form filled, every detail examined etc) being done- hence we see rapists and paedophiles go free in the name of justice. But any attempt to resolve the problem means a move towards less proof of guilt. It is a good question to ask society, “do you accept some innocent men, or women, will be incarcerated if you know it means more guilty men will be locked up”?
I have always worked on the basis that if the woman was incapable of actually acknowledging my di/ck inside her then perhaps this was not a two way interaction but a one way violation.
Of course, I have always argued that a level of responsibility is required from both men and women who drink themselves to oblivion then complain they experienced something they didn’t wish to happen- you wouldnt drive with your eyes shut and then complain, after a care has hit you, that you didnt see it coming!
5 February, 2007 at 2:08 pm #258976Now now PB, I was having a civiliased discussion with Emma
In all seriousness, it would be a prime opportunity for groups on the fringe of politics to really make a mark and gain some power.
5 February, 2007 at 12:34 pm #258905Trying to understand if PB’s answers are tongue in cheek or not.
Interestingly- would PB have started a thread which said “Is peadophilia a 21st century crime” and listed the same rationale- its usually one word against another, isnt it?
5 February, 2007 at 12:31 pm #258416Emma, demonising Islam and Muslim scholl children is not the way forward. Dont children have rights? Do they have to accept whatever is said to them and “tough” if you don’t like it.
Children have the right to complain- what is at fault is the school for its perceived PC attitude and the Sec of State for Eduation for creating a culture like this BUT it isnt the fault of any religion, section of society or child.
The more you demonise something or someone, the more you alienate people- this is actually core to what the BNP are trying to acheive- the more radical they can make Muslims out to be (irrespetive of fact), the more people will believe it.
Quite insidious really.
What should have happened
Children complain, headmaster talks to teacher, teacher gives his side of story and headmaster decides what will occur from now on.
Teacher isnt sacked but more mindful or making statement which can be miscontrued and everyone goes back to normal
Not difficult is it
5 February, 2007 at 12:26 pm #258974:lol: :lol:
You don’t- in fact the public sector will bear the brunt of much of a pandemic as they are daily in contact with people who are ill, vulnerable or at risk. There nothing you can do except hope it doesnt happen to you
If the NHS lost a quarter to a third of its workforce- what do you think would happen? No nurses, no doctors, no cleaners etc- imagine then if the police lost a third of its workforce- what would happen to law and order? Really really quite disturbing
5 February, 2007 at 7:48 am #258972scary scary stuff if it occurs in the way the worst case scenario- it reminded me of the Bubonic Plague where whole villages sealed themselves off from the world if one person was infected
Planning for every eventuality is difficult as so many different scenarios could occur and no one really knows exactly what will happen.
we are due a flu pandemic as the last one was 90 years ago
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