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    People mistreating animals is a completely different topic, its like saying ‘if people didn’t abuse kids there would be no need to have kid helplines and charities !!! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN, unfortunately In my opinion Sophie was disclosing the fact that , unlike other animal charities, the RSPCA is profit making and making its directors rich ! of course funds aren’t infinite, but there would be more funds for the animals if the fat cats at the top took a pay cut !! I set up a direct debit to the RSPCA a year or so back, I think it was £10 a month, not a vast amount but £120 a year is not to be sniffed at, after about 3 months the phone calls started, basically asking to increase my subscription, I declined, they phoned again and again and again, despite me asking them not to call again, even threatening to cancel my subscription, e mails with graphic photo’s, obviously intended to instil guilt and use emotional blackmail, it was upsetting but had the reverse effect because I was livid that they were still using these tactics to get money out of someone already contributing, for all they knew I could have been hard up and struggling, so I’m afraid I cancelled my subscription and now donate to local animal charities who really do struggle and rely on people helping out. The topic isn’t about, cruel, misguided, irresponsible people, parents etc etc , that will always be there, its about the RSPCA specifically, or that’s what Sophie meant anyway, don’t turn it into a ‘ how do we fix humans’ thread fgs !! Sophie I hope I’ve got that right anyway lol I realise this thread has taken a swerve ball since it started but felt the need to speak up before you, blossom, turn it into a chapter of ‘The World According To Blossom Thread’ ……yet again

    moosey, I am not stupid.

    I get where you and Sophia are coming from, but the root of the problem still remains the same.

    If you don’t elimate the root cause, you’ll never eliminate the effects this problem is causing.

    It is a greedy money making machine, I agree, but only because we let them.

    #1022823

    Bloss, im not missing any point, you are!

    No, you are, as if so many animals werent being mistreated/abandoned, such big enterprises wouldn’t exist ! It’s a bit like prostitution : If there was no market for them , would they exist? The simple answer is no, as with any other enterprise.

    Oh yeah it’s a really good comparison, abandoned pets being compared to prostitutes. :good:

    Both businesses in this case.

    They can be compared, yes

    Would RSPCA still exist  if there were no mistreated/abandoned dogs?

    Same goes for prostitutes, if there were no clients, would there still be any?

    It’s pretty simple to understand :-)

    #1022833

    Blossom neither is everyone else stupid ! of course if we lived in a perfect world there would be no need for it !  well doh !!

    We don’t live in a perfect world, and never will, the root cause of most of this worlds problems are man made.

    Switching the subject to some sort of ‘fix the world ‘ cause,  is taking away from the topic, in a thoroughly childlike and simplistic way! We know the root cause, of course we do , you haven’t had an epiphany you know ! We all know that !!, thankyou very much ! However, as we can’t ‘fix the world ‘ and tackle the fact that a lot of ppl are basic sh its, maybe pointing out that certain ‘charities’ are almost fraudulent and some actually do what they say on the tin and try and help and educate people, is  helping  in some small way, rather than you spouting what everyone with an iq of over 20 already knows, but is powerless to change !

    I repeat, WE KNOW THE ROOT CAUSE LUV !!!,

    maybe tho, having read this thread some people may choose to place their charitable donations to another more worthy cause, instead of lining the pockets of Directors who haven’t looked after a sick or injured animal in their life .

    That , my dear, is what’s called, maybe , just maybe , achieving something worthwhile, instead of trying to look clever and achieving nothing .

    #1022834

    And btw, no offence, well to be honest if you’re offended I’m sorry but unaffected, I happen to think you are a bit thick. Just my opinion B-)

     

     

    #1022837

    Blossom neither is everyone else stupid ! of course if we lived in a perfect world there would be no need for it ! well doh !! We don’t live in a perfect world, and never will, the root cause of most of this worlds problems are man made. Switching the subject to some sort of ‘fix the world ‘ cause, is taking away from the topic, in a thoroughly childlike and simplistic way! We know the root cause, of course we do , you haven’t had an epiphany you know ! We all know that !!, thankyou very much ! However, as we can’t ‘fix the world ‘ and tackle the fact that a lot of ppl are basic sh its, maybe pointing out that certain ‘charities’ are almost fraudulent and some actually do what they say on the tin and try and help and educate people, is helping in some small way, rather than you spouting what everyone with an iq of over 20 already knows, but is powerless to change ! I repeat, WE KNOW THE ROOT CAUSE LUV !!!, maybe tho, having read this thread some people may choose to place their charitable donations to another more worthy cause, instead of lining the pockets of Directors who haven’t looked after a sick or injured animal in their life . That , my dear, is what’s called, maybe , just maybe , achieving something worthwhile, instead of trying to look clever and achieving nothing .

    I’m not really sure how you know what goes on in other people’s minds (as you stated ‘we all know luv’), you can only speak for yourself, not others, but  hey, good luck with it.

    As for ppl being basic sh its .. I could start a long debate here involving the enviroment they were born abd brought up in, teachers, personal life experiences,  etc…but that’s another story.

    I still think what I added could be useful, as there could be some who read these posts who are thinking of getting a dog…..and make them think twice  before deciding….as animals are for keeps…not just for a few months until they tire of them.

    It’s usually the simple things in life that work, believe it or not.

    As for looking clever, yes, you have certainly  achieved that.

     

    #1022838

    And btw, no offence, well to be honest if you’re offended I’m sorry but unaffected, I happen to think you are a bit thick. Just my opinion B-)

    Thanks.  I take that as a compliment said by you.

    #1022839

    Ge

    Going back to Blossoms original point, the RSPCA of the 70’s and most other large charities today were completely different organizations then, compared to the corporate driven, money making machines they are now. A career vehicle for the university educated PPE middle class.

    I reported a case of dog cruelty to the RSPCA in which I confronted a man who was regularly abusing a puppy while supposedly “training” it and which nearly lead to a physical confrontation. The RSPCA duly took my details, a drscription of the man and what I witnessed but unfortunately though we had no firm address for him.

    I never heard from the RSPCA again in reference to the abuse except for being regularly deluged with phone calls and junk mail to donate and open a monthly DD. In the end I told them to p*ss off. These corporate driven charities have simply become too large to fail and government is let off the hook because of that. A local sanctuary, Bleakholt, costs in excess of £1,000,000 a year to run so god knows what admin and salaries costs the corporate driven RSPCA.

    #1022844

    Bloss, im not missing any point, you are!

    No, you are, as if so many animals werent being mistreated/abandoned, such big enterprises wouldn’t exist ! It’s a bit like prostitution : If there was no market for them , would they exist? The simple answer is no, as with any other enterprise.

    Oh yeah it’s a really good comparison, abandoned pets being compared to prostitutes. :good:

    Both businesses in this case. They can be compared, yes Would RSPCA still exist if there were no mistreated/abandoned dogs? Same goes for prostitutes, if there were no clients, would there still be any? It’s pretty simple to understand :-)

    Oh ok, I’m so pleased they can be compared and it’s all oh so simple to understand. What are you proposing, that we open some abandoned pet brothels with free condoms at reception?  :unsure:

    #1022845

    I say this!

    Pets, unlike some men,  have never needed brothels to have a good time.

    Allow abandoned pets to have a good time before they are deleted by the RSPCA!!

    #1022849

    As for looking clever, yes, you have certainly  achieved that.

    Awwww geeee, thanks Bloss

     

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