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Yes, that’s a serious point, Lucy.

And you’re putting it in a way which doesn’t sound inhuman.

There are arguments which can be made against refugee policy, which have to be treated seriously – and I’ll try to.

but I’ll post that elsewhere, because i don’t want to give any dignity to this thread, which has its fair share of rather contemptible…[Read more]

nope milkman – just a picture. Others are committing the murders.

ps to the above –

Trapper, I think you usually make serious points about this issue.

I wish others did (Lucy, I actually think you make serious points too, in your inimitable fashion)

We disagree, and you doubtless object to my belief that you’re both xenophobic – I hope we continue to be rational in our disagreements on the other thread.

But…[Read more]

I didn’t say you posted that pic. Somer posted it after your scare-claim that terrorists were being infiltrated in with the refugees. Some creep thought somer was funny as feck on the second post.

You also seem to find it funny.

You (and arc) said that people appeared to be male, on the basis of a few television shots of a few people. In fact…[Read more]

it was posted at a particular time, immediately after you claimed on the refugee post that they were terrorists..

In context it’s a scary picture – I’ve seen it before.

But what sicko would find it funny???

The reactions make this a right-wing hate thread, before it turned into a thread for very poor anti-muslim jokes, too poor to be…[Read more]

logorrhea

@milkman of human kindness wrote:

me touchy skep your the one posting pictures of dead kids

you’re very touchy about yourself.

I’m touchy about human suffering, and that pic was the one that shamed even Cameron into accepting 20,000 refugees. He should take more, as Martin Wolf argued today in the FT.

Others here don’t seem touchy at all when it…[Read more]

@Irish_Lucy wrote:

xenophobia
zɛnəˈfəʊbɪə/Submit
noun
dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.

Your talking rubbish here Scep. I dont hate or dislike people from other countries.

I just dont want to be a second class citizen in my own Country.
Ive already agreed with you, that what is happening is wrong, sick and…

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milky you are one of the touchiest characters on the boards.

All I have to do is write a pot and I’m accusing you of being a Nazi, a racist, whatever. I spent a while correcting you at each point on one thread before I realised that you’re a bit of an idiot, or maybe just someone with a persecution complex.

I do accuse people here of xenophobia,…[Read more]

@Mr Harp wrote:

@Trapper wrote:

cant abide people using the word uber and where’s the moon rising in uranus type jokes

I’m not arguing with you, I only have 1 son and you have 12. All growlers.

That was a snipe at Trapper’s kids, Harp.

Nothing more serious but it would annoy anyone.

No idea what personal grudges you have against him, but keep it to him.

and ‘shock and awe”, as the war against Iraq was termed by the US and UK military commanders, isn’t barbarism??

I give way to nobody on my revulsion against ISIS, and the terrible suffering they cause.

But it’s a right-wing hate thread developing here, and the suffering of refugees is a rightful antidote.

We should show ourselves a bit better…[Read more]

a Syrian child, fleeing from a war zone.

The pic that shamed anyone with a conscience. Cameron into accepting 20,000 refugees

And the point is what you miss…

a right-wing hate thread about babies was developing here, imho, disguised as humour.

A reminder of the genuine suffering caused by our war policy is a right antidote.

@Irish_Lucy wrote:

@sceptical guy wrote:

I fail to see the funny side of this Scep. Unless you thought Somer and Trapper where taking the cheap wine out of human suffering?? – your wrong they weren’t.

However your pic is wasted here as we all know that child could still be alive if the father was not selfish and put his family at risk by moving…

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there are jokes and jokes, somer.

To you a joke; to me, having all the makings of a right-wing hate thread dressed up as humour.

how do you know that?

It depends on the international response.

If Britain can help, instead of bombing and invading, then the EU can develop a response of eventual resettlement.

That does mean Britain doing something more in the EU than whining about immigrants.

At the moment, would you go back to a region where children are used as suicide…[Read more]

so that does involve an international response, because so far mos of those responses have been bombing and stirring.

The problem is that the whole region is blowing apart – and not just because of ISIS. Lebanaon is next to Syria, but is moving into civil war. Israel is next door – haha try that on. Then there’s Iraq, but the British-US invasion…[Read more]

that’s a bizarre post, Trapper. Turn the desert to glass??? There are ways of defeating ISIS but that’s a different story. This war has a way to go yet.

The thinking out strategy means that one country can’t handle this crisis. You can’t leave it to Germany. And you can’t hope it’s going to go away – it’s going to get worse before it gets better.…[Read more]

@boojangle wrote:

Terrorists….

What doesn’t sit right with me is that as a country, people have no problems with the Irish as a whole – born out of the fear the Irish Republican Army caused way back… Maybe it’s easier for some to forget the car bombs etc that were placed by them….terrorists!

Nope… I refuse to hold a whole…

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arc,

the terrorist scare is just that – a scare. Terrorists have no need to hide themselves in a crowd of refugees – there are enough recruits in Europe anyway without having to smuggle yourself in as part of a crowd which would be checked and carefully regulated if the EU could get a proper policy of refugee centres worked out. As it is,…[Read more]