Scep, I think Mizzy is responding to goading by the above mentioned Mr Bollox, in his normal way he has twisted a flippant comment she made saying she would rather her child snuck a couple of drinks than go off with a much older man for sex. Mr Bollicky graphgate inferred that a ‘loving bonk’ at 15 was preferable to encouraging a child to drink litres of vodka, which of course no one said at all, its all just twisting the knife, whilst trying to sound so calm and inoffensive, which we all recognise quite easily… Its nothing new. What Mizzy is saying, I assume , is that a ” cheeky bonk” at a young age if the child is not emotionally mature enough to handle it could actually contribute to mental health issues later in life, one of which may well be alcoholism. Correct me if I’m off base here Mizzy. I think she would like Mr Bollockygraphgate to provide some evidence in his own ‘ one size fits all ‘ fashion.
Ive no idea where you got sex in front of kids bit from tho
This reply was modified 7 years, 10 months ago by mooosey88.
Abuse is unique in the way it damages people because it literally wounds the soul. The ravages of abuse are deep seated and often life-long. This is evidenced in many forms of pathology which ultimately have their root in abuse. Abuse is one of the most significant sources of emotional, physical, and relational damage. For instance:
Recent neurological research has definitely shown that early childhood abuse, neglect, and witnessing family violence permanently alters and damages the brain, thus leading to a host of long term individual and social pathologies.
The annual cost of intimate partner violence in the United States is estimated to be $8.3 billion dollars (U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 2003)
Adult prostitutes are three to four times more likely than non-prostitutes to have been physically or sexually abused in childhood.
70% of all psychiatric emergency room patients report a history of childhood physical or sexual abuse
It is estimated that two million Americans self mutilate, and a high percentage do so because of unresolved childhood trauma, particularly sexual abuse
Abuse is one of the primary reasons for homelessness in America
It is estimated that one-third of abused children will become abusive parents
Alcoholics are over three times more likely to have experienced childhood abuse
70-80% of adult sex addicts are survivors of physical or sexual abuse
According to an study released by U.S. Dept. of Justice, being abused or neglected as a child increased the likelihood of arrest as a juvenile by 59%, arrest as an adult by 28%, and arrest for a violent crime by 30%
source – http://mendingthesoul.org/research-and-resources/research-and-articles/abuse-is-devastating/? that little ‘bonk’ could have serious repocussions for that child. 3 vodka and cokes would NEVER do that to a young mind That young person may need some water and paracetamol the next day. Kids brought up without any sexual abuse in childhood don’t ‘suddenly’ become alcoholics at the age of 18 but kids who have been sexualised and abused or had sex at a very young age are more likely to gain addictions when they are older. So your ‘harmless bonk’ may seriously mess up a young persons mind. Very few alcoholics become alcoholics just cos they ‘just like the taste’ maybe try to understand drinkers better before you decide that a young person who gets drunk will ‘automatically’ turn into a pisshead. No – its cos they’ve been exposed to some kind of trauma. And having sex with some old twat may just do that. Young people who don’t have the love and support from their families can be vulnerable and that is when the predators nip in. ‘Its ok shes 18, I may be 50 but hey I ride my bike and I work out’ Shes looking for the father she never had. The majority of teenagers who have a drink do not turn into alcoholics but I bet you the ones that do have had ‘some early childhood sexual trauma’ Find me a graph about why most alcoholics become alcoholics that doesn’t show a common denominator where young child sexual abuse was not a factor, or adult rape of some kind. Go on google the lancet Or do drinkers just wake up one day and go hey I will just drink for the fuck of it cos its such fun to have hangovers.
Excellent post, and very thought provoking and sobering ( no pun intended), also well researched. It sheds a different light on a lot of peoples attitudes to.
One other thing occurred to me while I was meditating on my yoga mat. I bet you 3 Greggs sausage rolls that the author/s of ‘graphgate’ (I like that) are members of the pro cannabis lobby… Do I get a gold star?
Actually I do get a gold star. I look forward to being presented with it by one of the lovely JC ladies, bikini clad of course. David Nutt… Oh dearie me. Pro cannabis, a neuropsychopharmacology expert. But back to ‘graphgate’, Nutt himself says ” “Overall, alcohol is the most harmful drug because it’s so widely used” and of course his ‘research’ doesn’t take into account, at all, the lack of availability of “illegal” drugs” and so obviously far less people use them. Meaning his findings don’t mean very much at all. I do also recall Mr Graphgate producing the same graph during a defense of cannabis use. I got your number! *shy smile*
I said dat I said dat
Lol. You probably did but I only bloody wanted the bikini clad gold star award, innit! Pouts like Michael Caine!
As long as she’s over 24 We don’t want a re-run now do we lol
Many good points. Thank many responding. Mooosey brings out excellent points. Some times our professional who prescribe medications may or may not take themself. But agree many sure use for own personal needs.. Also those sadly who have had severe accidents may be provided addictive products till better, but may become dependant as not wanting to feel the pain. Heard this many many times. Rather have addiction than suffer in pain. Life too hard. As with consents, maturity, right, wrong,…parents educators, and reading every ones good points, bottom line it still comes down to the individual and decisions they make…..our decisions alone are the ones in which we favor no matter if others see it right or wrong. As I use to like actual studies for comparison, recently found out as well that the controller of an experiment can influence or change out comes…of study…throwing in variables. As for charts, comparison studies good, but now you go back to who accessible to getting drugs, alcohol, so forth..country..community…age So if you really really look at this strongly, logically, comes down to human race, individual needs and desires. I have. I have pulled all your thoughts and ideas together, all….and this in my opinion is bottom line, us, our decision….
Linda I agree, we have to live by our own decisions…. although it’s tragic when the wrong decision is made by a kid of 15, with no decent guidance for one reason or another, doomed to spend life as a spat upon, no damn good druggie who the authorities show no support for.
One other thing occurred to me while I was meditating on my yoga mat. I bet you 3 Greggs sausage rolls that the author/s of ‘graphgate’ (I like that) are members of the pro cannabis lobby… Do I get a gold star?
Actually I do get a gold star. I look forward to being presented with it by one of the lovely JC ladies, bikini clad of course. David Nutt… Oh dearie me. Pro cannabis, a neuropsychopharmacology expert. But back to ‘graphgate’, Nutt himself says ” “Overall, alcohol is the most harmful drug because it’s so widely used” and of course his ‘research’ doesn’t take into account, at all, the lack of availability of “illegal” drugs” and so obviously far less people use them. Meaning his findings don’t mean very much at all. I do also recall Mr Graphgate producing the same graph during a defense of cannabis use. I got your number! *shy smile*
Oh Mr Nuttall of graphgate gets a mention here ”Many factors determine whether you’ll become addicted to a drug: your genetic makeup, social history, the drugs your friends take, how much money you make. But the chemical makeup of drugs guarantee that certain drugs are more addictive than others. The hardest ones to kick—heroin, for instance—actually train your brain to crave them. A team of researchers led by professor David Nutt of London’s Imperial College recently set out to determine which drugs were most harmful based on their addictive properties (the resulting article suggested that alcohol and tobacco are more harmful than cannabis and ecstasy, and led to Nutt getting sacked as the UK’s top drug adviser). ”
David Nutt, for those who don’t read the painter’s autograph at the bottom left hand of the picture, is the author of the research graph quoted as gospel truth by Mr Bollox.
I knew dat
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